SOTeric

Lets hope the new merger policy that includes LONGEVITY has teeth.

ewrbasedpilot

KC......you are NOT forgotten. If you knew how many pilots go to bat for you every day, you'd be surprised. On the other hand, there's the "few" who could care less about anyone other than themselves, and believe me, I WILL tell the FO's who their friends are and aren't. I'm tired of seeing these 115 hour a month pilots who "need" the money to survive, yet have no wife, family, or kids..........but can barely survive and can't stop bragging about their three homes, two boats, 10 girlfriends, etc. And the sad thing is, is they think it's funny that they can do whatever they want because our pitiful contracts have NO teeth and ALLOW them to do what they do. I certainly think ALPA needs a whole new set of AGRESSIVE attorney's, not those who come up with such weak contracts TIME AFTER TIME. But you are right.........this is one of the ONLY careers where you seem to go backwards more than forwards. Hang in there, we'll get you back soon.

EWRflyr

Oh, please! We are talking the airlines here. Sometimes I think they like to use the communist method: plan 5 years out then the next week they are so screwed up they can't figure out what to do.

At CAL, the only thing I expect ever is no hiring or no recalls until I see it. They like to run this staff so lean and treat the crews like slaves in the summer to only graciously offer COLAs and reduced flying the rest of the year as a reward for the all the hard work. Of course that reward comes with a reduction in pay.

skippy

ill expect that pilot group's support when i run for mec chairman.

next mec chairman must be mandatory that the pilot has been furloughed at ual ( preferably)

dumpcheck

And as far as Todd's "slots" for UAL guys in March 2011 off the CAL bid...I believe he's just doing straight math. I.e. bid for 120 seats (or whatever), 85 accepted recall, leaves 35 remaining to be filled...but that is an assumption that they will fill all those remaining seats from the bid with UAL guys. Mngmt could just as easily "adjust" the requirement and settle for 85 fills for now....

I'm hoping this new company will get off it's bloated arse and start to compete with DAL who seems to be going all out for market share...with SWA joining in.

Brocc15

Does anybody know if they scheduled all of the classes yet, and if so when the last class is?

Milton Waddams

What is the significance of the "2172" number that I am now seeing getting thrown around? I thought you guys had 1437 on furlough? Thanks.

MW

SKMarz

2172, the number of pilots UAL furloughed the first time, after 9/11. Many eventually accepted the recall only to be furloughed again, this time, 1437.

Bandera89

2172 are more cautious of any new promises. We have been through this before so we know who is looking out for us...2172 Strong.

SKMarz

Or, more to the point, we have learned who is NOT looking out for us.