Announced: CLE to remain hub for 5 years
#11
Thanks for the medical advice Fritz, but I've been in the game long enough to smell what's cooking. BTW, I don't blame the UAL furloughees for wanting my job, hell I've been and will soon again be a Major Airline Captain; they were hired a decade ago and therefore deserve my Left Seat. In actuality, I blame that portion of the CAL pilot group with a propensity collusion and capitulation. Once I'm furloughed from UAL in the future, I hope the place burns to the ground; my pride wouldn't allow me to come and go as UAL sees fit.
#12
Thanks for the medical advice Fritz, but I've been in the game long enough to smell what's cooking. BTW, I don't blame the UAL furloughees for wanting my job, hell I've been and will soon again be a Major Airline Captain; they were hired a decade ago and therefore deserve my Left Seat. In actuality, I blame that portion of the CAL pilot group with a propensity collusion and capitulation. Once I'm furloughed from UAL in the future, I hope the place burns to the ground; my pride wouldn't allow me to come and go as UAL sees fit.
#13
#14
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Joined APC: Sep 2007
Position: Cap. 737
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I can't speak for anyone else, but as a 99' hire who is currently furloughed, I certainly don't expect to take anyone's job or slide into someone else's seat. I'm just hoping to at least have the choice to return (preferably back to the 767/757 I was furloughed off of) and to not get hosed by being stapled to the bottom of the list, behind someone with three years on property.
I don't think there is a snowball chance in #### that what you fear is coming down the pike. I wish I could say the same about my fears but it sure sounds like being stapled is a very likely scenario.
In any event, it's all out of my control....
I don't think there is a snowball chance in #### that what you fear is coming down the pike. I wish I could say the same about my fears but it sure sounds like being stapled is a very likely scenario.
In any event, it's all out of my control....
#15
I can't speak for anyone else, but as a 99' hire who is currently furloughed, I certainly don't expect to take anyone's job or slide into someone else's seat. I'm just hoping to at least have the choice to return (preferably back to the 767/757 I was furloughed off of) and to not get hosed by being stapled to the bottom of the list, behind someone with three years on property.
I don't think there is a snowball chance in #### that what you fear is coming down the pike. I wish I could say the same about my fears but it sure sounds like being stapled is a very likely scenario.
In any event, it's all out of my control....
I don't think there is a snowball chance in #### that what you fear is coming down the pike. I wish I could say the same about my fears but it sure sounds like being stapled is a very likely scenario.
In any event, it's all out of my control....
#17
Much Love Luv:
But Jeff might be our only chance for survival because we, for all intents and purposes, are non-union. Our MEC Chair, Ornstein's former right-hand man, has lost his ability to sell the pilot group out to management; a long honored tradition @ CAL. Now his ambitions lie with ALPA Nat'l. He'll now have to sell us to United ALPA. Look for Huge fences, all UAL furloughees returning and all but the most Sr 737 CAL Captains being furloughed within 3 years. Still praying that this thing falls apart. Anyhow, CLE and post-Bethune CAL pilots are fkud.
But Jeff might be our only chance for survival because we, for all intents and purposes, are non-union. Our MEC Chair, Ornstein's former right-hand man, has lost his ability to sell the pilot group out to management; a long honored tradition @ CAL. Now his ambitions lie with ALPA Nat'l. He'll now have to sell us to United ALPA. Look for Huge fences, all UAL furloughees returning and all but the most Sr 737 CAL Captains being furloughed within 3 years. Still praying that this thing falls apart. Anyhow, CLE and post-Bethune CAL pilots are fkud.
No need to worry, UA ALPA is too busy self fornicating itself from within. Our ability to grab defeat from the jaws of victory should make you rest well. Look at some of the agreements we have signed. The UA ALPA of old, being led by visionaries and intelligence has been replaced by infighting and guys trying to homestead a spot on the new MEC. Our guys will sell their souls to keep an office at ORD ALPA and the union paid apartment. No way they want to come back and fly the line. The are the union version of Tilton....
#18
Thanks for the medical advice Fritz, but I've been in the game long enough to smell what's cooking. BTW, I don't blame the UAL furloughees for wanting my job, hell I've been and will soon again be a Major Airline Captain; they were hired a decade ago and therefore deserve my Left Seat. In actuality, I blame that portion of the CAL pilot group with a propensity collusion and capitulation. Once I'm furloughed from UAL in the future, I hope the place burns to the ground; my pride wouldn't allow me to come and go as UAL sees fit.
#19
So do I, but like you, I am blue collar labor and have no say in what managements do with the airlines. I'd rather focus my energy on things I have a small amount of say in, like a quality JCBA.
#20
Fumes this business transaction seems too heavy a burden to carry on your shoulder each day. It appears that when you left USAir for CAL you were promised the universe. Fortunately, much like with USAir you still have choices here. If, as you put it, you've been in the business long enough, then you do realize that it's now your turn to be a part of an airline history. I sure you can recite the names of the airlines (which BTW came before your time) that make up present day Continental. The list is long, and as long as you've been in this business you should be somewhere close to swallowing that. No one here is advocating to taking YOUR job. Maybe that was part of a past culture from whence you came but all the focus and the hoping and praying instead should be that the JCAB puts us back in a position of persuasion with the incoming administration. OMG help us is not part of that equation...
Thanks for the encouraging words.
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