dvhighdrive88

Some rather colorful postings as of late pupport insight into the progess of the JCBA...take them for what you will. I've found owning a salt mine is helpful around this place....

But seriously, we are well into the process and the MEC's are doing a great job of keeping radio silence on this deal and that is a good thing.

Has anybody heard of any concrete indications how things are going or has the juicy stuff not been laid on the table yet?

DV

EWRflyr

The only definitive thing that has been stated is that five sections were agreed to. All other sections have been presented or are close to being presented. The company is digesting the union's proposals, but they are still meeting three out of four weeks each month.

That's it. Nothing else to report as there has not been a negotiations update portion of our weekly MEC News for the past two weeks. Anyone who says they "know" what is going on at the table is smoking something I'll try the day I retire. Someone told me they flew with "a negotiating guy" who told him what was going on at at the table. I called BS on that because he was trying to stir the pot for sure.

CA Jimenez

This is some information I found in our MEC website dated August 28th. of 2010. I think is some good news but nothing is signed yet and anything can happen before that.

Welcome, United Pilots Negotiations Update:

August 28, 2010
The ALPA JNC continued its meetings with the Airline JNC this week. On Wednesday, a comprehensive proposal was passed regarding Scope for the new United Airlines. Scope language from Continental’s and United’s current contracts did not anticipate the multitude of existing business arrangements within the airline industry. This week’s proposal was the result of many weeks of activity within the JNC looking at every possible scenario with respect to the business.
Additionally this week, the JNC received the Company’s counterproposals on Moving and Crew Complement Sections. The JNC has passed at least once nearly all sections of the contract to the Company. To be completed are the JNC’s proposals on Compensation, Guam, Duration, Instructors, and Letters of Agreement.
The JNC remains cautiously optimistic with respect to the Company’s progress to date. In the last three weeks the JNC has passed several Scheduling Sections as well as Retirement and Insurance and now Scope; and while those sections are substantial, the JNC is awaiting the Company’s responses.
Finally, there always are rumors with respect to negotiations and an appetite for information. The UAL MEC is kept apprised of negotiations as they occur. They will continue to have the most complete, factual and current information and should be used as your source.

dvhighdrive88

Thanks for posting that. Its encouraging that the Scope issue has been tackled so far. At least this update indicates that significant progress is being made and that no major altercations have occured so far. That's about all we should really be interested IMHO.

Otherwise, sit back and relax because if even half the projections of increased flying, economic recovery, early retirements, work rule changes etc occur, then there could be guys on the top half of the list who might find themselves commuting to a UNICAL reserve sooner than they think. Uuuugh, I'd take it, but the fond memories of JS'ing across our great land are still rather fresh and these days with the flights jammed like they are, my gawd it must be a zoo commuting.

We will just have to sit tight and quiet and wait on the MEC to do their thing. So far, it seems to me they are doing a good job and like EWR Flyer and the update says: if its not from the MEC, it's probably BS.

I like that one about the flying with a "negotiating guy"...too funny.

757Driver

I wouldn't expect much with the new United's Vice President of Operations saying that it would be just fine to have separate contracts and work groups like the UsAir/America West merger is playing out.

I'll wager that IF anything gets TA'd before the end of the year it won't be worth voting yes for.

CA Jimenez

Hello 757Driver.

Can you elaborate on that? Where did you see that and in what context was he talking about?

Thanks.