CheapFlyer

What about the A319/320's?

That's an awful lot of airplanes being parked if you add the Airbus to all the RJ's that you claim that are just going to disappear.

JetPilotMike

It will be a shame if the new UAL decides to get rid of the Airbus. It is much more comfortable in the cabin and up front. Plus, replacing them isn't growth, it will be the same old thing: get one, park one = no growth, no movement. I'll take an Airbus any day over a B737. Plus, an A320 will pay more than that fleet of 125 E-jets...so more lower paying jobs.

SOTeric

All true.

I have 1000s of hours in both and A320 is a much nicer place to go to work.

Most Arbi bashers are the ones who never flew it.

Anyway, the more mainline jet the better, no matter the make. That's what drives jobs.

Lambourne

Let's take this tidbit first. So Boeing says airlines will have 35% more aircraft. Interesting statement from a manufacturer! Telling people there will be a greater demand for YOUR product is what these companies do. If you ask a FORD dealer, he will tell you that xxx number of people will be buying cars and xxx number of people will be needing to replace a car. Please tell me you are not so blinded by a sell job by Boeing that you actually believe this stuff? I bet you are intrigued by the Home Shopping Network at 3am.

UIf you don't mind I'll wait for the order to be announced. I suspect these airplanes being ordered are part of the group of purported A320's and A321's sitting in Toulouse in United colors that was floating around for the longest time. Anyone else remember that rumor?

I hardly think scope is a throwaway for the company. Heck they would outsource their mothers if they could. No reason this is not a fight to keep the scope CAL has. To say it has zero monetary value shows a complete lack of comprehension of negotiations on your behalf. I certainly hope others can see this too.


I am all for fewer regionals and less express flying. But I have to call your bluff. You are talking about regionals going away. Please name the ones that are disappearing? Sure there is merging going on at the regional level but it is to shore up their bargaining power. They will be able to seek better terms if there are fewer of those companies vying for the contracts and they can steady the rates by having fewer entities. They are not removing companies, they are bulking up. A scary thought and a darn good reason the major carriers need to get out of ALPA and form their own unions. ALPA can not support both pilot groups interest.

I would comment on the rest of your post but it is just as bogus as the above. I am going to go out on a limb and say that you will not live long enough to see C2K rates again at UA. There just won't be enough contracts put in place before all of us die to ever see those rates again.

Finally, since you are now touting 40+% raises and airplane orders are you now changing your stance and saying we should vote yes on the Oct agreement? Or should we vote NO since we always get something better on the second try? You are contradicting yourself daily so please keep us in the loop on what we should be doing....LOL!!!

You banter is so much like that shamed and ridiculed forumite JB, that the similarities are frightening. My guess is that if you truly are JB then you are being fed a line of BS by someone to spin you up and see where you fling your poo. This site appears to be your target and they have now been able to locate where the mole resides.......

SUPERfluf

Not saying I believe this guy, but recalls are starting in November..........at CAL.

Unless none of the CAL furloughs bypass, a few UAL furloughs will be offered positions as well.

LeeFXDWG

The poster was implying UA recalls the way I read it. Therefore my point.

This poster is full of ****e. Period.

I hope that all are recalled. I'll sit on my recall rights and 11 years seniority waiting for the SLI shakedown before I even consider returning.

Lee

EWRflyr

Never flown one but been on a couple. Found the cabin and aisle wider and the cockpit HUGE. Had to catch a ride on JetBlue to JFK once in advance of a snowstorm after CAL canceled all flights out to EWR that day. Great guys. Had to sit in a FA jumpseat along with a couple AA guys. The JB js in the cockpit offered to store all our bags up there since overheads were full. Didn't realize there was that much room and the bags were waiting for us in the jetway when we got out in JFK.

I will say I do long for a tray table to eat and do company revisions on.

Fritzthepilot

I guess the whole revision/ flight bag issue will have to be determined. It is nice not to have to do them every two weeks.

Bus cockpits are more comfortable than the guppy, your warm in the winter and cool in the summer, the nose wheel doesn't feel like it's going to fall off, and the windshield wiper remains parked. That being said, Boeings fly better.

Ottopilot

Too bad the merger is not about growth. It's about consolidation. I expect a lot of parked aircraft. Expect "shrinkage". "I was in the pool!"

oncea57cap

UCAL will continue to lose market share chiefly to Southwest and Virgin America. This, however does not worry most at the top as net revenues and gross margins will accelerate at a staggering pace. UCAL projects the largest annual profit increase of any airline in history. Even with scope restoration there will be no aggregrate growth in the combined company. The only growth that will come will be through work rule restoration which will increase pilot numbers by about 15% over the first 12 months. Your union is well aware of this and that is why the bar continues to be set higher and higher. I still expect the TA to pass the first go round because management has done an exceptional job of demoralizing the pilot group. To put things in perspective, 12 months ago it was suggested that raises of 10% would have got a yes vote. Now they are at 30% and rising.