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Old 08-23-2010, 09:59 AM
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This all wonderful and very informative. I support our military guard and reserve pilots and have no illusions about holding down two jobs one civilian and one military as being a cake walk. However what does this have to do with the UAL/CAL merger?

Why don't you guys start a dedicated thread and bugger off here?
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Old 08-23-2010, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
This all wonderful and very informative. I support our military guard and reserve pilots and have no illusions about holding down two jobs one civilian and one military as being a cake walk. However what does this have to do with the UAL/CAL merger?

Why don't you guys start a dedicated thread and bugger off here?
Perhaps to warn CAL guys that milaphobia exists at UAL and the need to be careful of who you confess your abuses to. Seriously, a thread on the subject was recently closed due to TOS violations: http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...tary-bias.html. So, of course, the retoric migrated here. Thus, I'm surprised this one is still open.

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Old 08-23-2010, 10:49 AM
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HSLD & company....

Moving this thread/topic to the "Military" section would be appropriate??
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Old 08-23-2010, 11:41 AM
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Perhaps to warn CAL guys that milaphobia exist at UAL and the need to be careful of who you confess your abuses too. Seriously, a thread on the subject was recently closed due to TOS violations: http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/ma...tary-bias.html. So, of course, the retoric migrated here. Thus, I'm surprised this one is still open.

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Herc, this really is not true at Ual. Don't feel that way just because one or two people on this site make those comments about military guys, that does not speak for all the pilots. There is a big mix of pilots at united with all different backgrounds, I routinely fly with military from all branches, corporate, regional folks, general aviation and most get along great and mix well in the cockpit and on layovers.
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Originally Posted by syd111
Herc, this really is not true at Ual. Don't feel that way just because one or two people on this site make those comments about military guys, that does not speak for all the pilots. There is a big mix of pilots at united with all different backgrounds, I routinely fly with military from all branches, corporate, regional folks, general aviation and most get along great and mix well in the cockpit and on layovers.
Well said and true.
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Old 08-23-2010, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by syd111
Herc, this really is not true at Ual. Don't feel that way just because one or two people on this site make those comments about military guys, that does not speak for all the pilots. There is a big mix of pilots at united with all different backgrounds, I routinely fly with military from all branches, corporate, regional folks, general aviation and most get along great and mix well in the cockpit and on layovers.
I think we will find that this is the case with both groups about a lot of things. Most of us will get along fine, some of us won't. Both groups have a majority of good guys (and gals) that share a small space in an aluminum tube for days at a time, and we each have our people with an "interesting" take on life. In my own guard unit I have known UAL guys that I thought were a-holes and UAL guys that were truly awesome guys to go flying with. My experience jumpseating on UAL has been nothing but positive. I look forward to the chance to raise the bar with my new brothers and sisters and take this profession back to where it should be. The enemy is management.
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I think we will find that this is the case with both groups about a lot of things. Most of us will get along fine, some of us won't. Both groups have a majority of good guys (and gals) that share a small space in an aluminum tube for days at a time, and we each have our people with an "interesting" take on life. In my own guard unit I have known UAL guys that I thought were a-holes and UAL guys that were truly awesome guys to go flying with. My experience jumpseating on UAL has been nothing but positive. I look forward to the chance to raise the bar with my new brothers and sisters and take this profession back to where it should be. The enemy is management.
Nice! I hope we can all agree with THIS!
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Originally Posted by luv757
I think we will find that this is the case with both groups about a lot of things. Most of us will get along fine, some of us won't. Both groups have a majority of good guys (and gals) that share a small space in an aluminum tube for days at a time, and we each have our people with an "interesting" take on life. In my own guard unit I have known UAL guys that I thought were a-holes and UAL guys that were truly awesome guys to go flying with. My experience jumpseating on UAL has been nothing but positive. I look forward to the chance to raise the bar with my new brothers and sisters and take this profession back to where it should be. The enemy is management.

There you go!
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Originally Posted by luv757
I think we will find that this is the case with both groups about a lot of things. Most of us will get along fine, some of us won't. Both groups have a majority of good guys (and gals) that share a small space in an aluminum tube for days at a time, and we each have our people with an "interesting" take on life. In my own guard unit I have known UAL guys that I thought were a-holes and UAL guys that were truly awesome guys to go flying with. My experience jumpseating on UAL has been nothing but positive. I look forward to the chance to raise the bar with my new brothers and sisters and take this profession back to where it should be. The enemy is management.
+1!

On that note, can we PLEASE get back to other CAL/UAL questions that have to do with the actual merger? Military service, leave, duty discussed to death at this point? Thank you.
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Old 08-24-2010, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by syd111
Herc, this really is not true at Ual. Don't feel that way just because one or two people on this site make those comments about military guys, that does not speak for all the pilots. There is a big mix of pilots at united with all different backgrounds, I routinely fly with military from all branches, corporate, regional folks, general aviation and most get along great and mix well in the cockpit and on layovers.

I would have to agree with syd111 comments. I am from Dominican Republic, civilian and have always truly enjoy the diversity that we have at United. Just like any work environment 99% are great and it is the 1% that are bad.

I think together United will be again be a great place we can all call a career and not just a job.

Let's hope for the best of both worlds.
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