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I’m about 45% on an east cost base and I’m averaging 112 hours a month. The senior guys just bid to work 9 days and call it quits, so it opens up options to credit some serious hours if you put a little more effort into it, and are somewhat flexible.

11atsomto

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GoCats67

Even Chicken Little doesn't think the sky is falling that fast!!! ZERO 737s???? I will bet what ever amount you want on that number and you will be paying me before the middle of Oct! We are still getting several 737s every month, just not getting several every week as was originally the plan (9-10 ish between Oct and Dec). Plus getting several 321s every month as well (9-10ish between Oct and Dec). Then we will get a bunch of 737s and 321s throughout 2025, again not at the rate originally promised, but still very impressive growth. We will get prob 2 787s before the end of the year (maybe 3) and an additional 9 by summer of 2025 (maybe summer's end). That pace is suppossed to keep up past the summer, but the 787 Boeing production site I look at doesn't go beyond summer of 2025 to show what the expected rate is.

So growth will be still be happening at what would normally be considered an unbelievable rate, just not as unbelievable as originally planned.

That being said, you always take the first job offered and go with that. Until UA actually gives you a class date, you do not have a decision to make! Near term pain of having to go to training twice in short order should not be even the smallest factor. Where you want to live should be the largest factor in this case, both airlines are doing extremely well right now and look to be well postioned going forward.

What will happen in the future is far too dependant on unknown factors.

As a guy at TWA told me, when he was getting hired in the mid/late 60s he had job offers from UA, AA, and TWA. It was the easiest decision he ever made...It was completely wrong... but it was the easiest decision he ever made!! If he had gotten an offer from PanAm, then it would have been a tougher decision.

But seriously

I think he was saying “zero 737’s” because of the Boeing strike. That’s technically true, but I doubt the strike will last long enough to have any sort of impact on airline plans, let alone affect a decades long pilot career.

fostro

I agree with the forecast! I believe at least 3 787s from what I've been told. Growth is much better than the orange tails talking major cutbacks.

In Unity...

Devildog40

On the topic of UA&DL, while I intend on taking this upcoming DL class, and am still awaiting the UA date..

I did some digging into UA Next growth plan, while very flashy and looks great, do yall think DL would ever truly let UA overshadow it pilot group wise?
So if UA became 20K group, I.E. delta would also become 20K size to match the competition & maintain equivalent market share? Just seems like a common business strat DL would have to do.
DL seems to be quiet about their growth plans outside of >1 year while UA is flashy & publicizes long-term plans.. just can’t imagine DL ever being dwarfed (+/- 1,000 pilots) by United or AA.
Has delta had a “Delta Next” equivalent growth plan in the past I’m unaware of? Or is DL poised for equivalent growth of UA just quiet about it?

11atsomto

I'm not so certain that more pilots translates to winning in the scoreboard or as you say "overshadow" it. With more wide bodies you need more augmented crews so I think United will likely need more pilots because of this...and when you say when you say market share.....at least in the international arena it's not just United and Delta...it's the Korean Airs, Emriateses, ANAs, Lufthansa's, and EL AL's. Once you start playin ball you'll soon realize that the Domestic market is a very very small percentage of the overall revenue, and often routes that don't bear much fruit domestically only exist to supplement a much more global O and D city pairing. ( example Sarajevo - FRA- IAH- MEM)

As for the flashiness I'm a United guy but predicting the future of these growth plans that's more suited for the domain of Fanduel and Draft Kings .....it's not always the team that trades away all thier draft picks for the next five years that wins the superbowl.......sometimes it's better to be more sustainable and build with the draft.

Don't worry you got the big thing right.....You took the first class and #1 or at worst #2 airline in the country........you are in the top of the food chain.

dmeg13021

You are clearly Delta material. Enjoy your career.

60av8tor

Concur. Good God, the analysis...🤪🤪

Pilot4000

He sounds like the kind of guy that stays up for 24 hours straight before his checkride to study how many PSI the left t/r actuator has when the emergency stow button is pushed instead of getting rest and showing up to the checkride prepared to pass.