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Old 07-07-2024, 03:24 AM
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I dunno what Base and bid packages you are looking at, but east coat guppy flying isn’t anything like you are describing. Most of the redeyes that we have are on Day 4 coming from the west coast and commuters love them. I try to pass on them.

At 94 percent, I’ve managed to avoid ANFs until this month. The only reason I took on some ANFs is for days off I wanted.
new guy here (waiting on class date) so sorry for probably dumb question, whats “ANF”?
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Old 07-07-2024, 03:53 AM
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I dunno what Base and bid packages you are looking at, but east coat guppy flying isn’t anything like you are describing. Most of the redeyes that we have are on Day 4 coming from the west coast and commuters love them. I try to pass on them.

At 94 percent, I’ve managed to avoid ANFs until this month. The only reason I took on some ANFs is for days off I wanted.
SFO and I live in base. I can see that with a 2300ish report/departure I could put my kids down, drive opposite traffic, and get a decent nap in my campsite before work...but that's still going to be 4-5 times a month for years. I sleep better in the bunk of the 300 than I do at home, and when you get a good long one like Tel Aviv or Manila, it's a whole night of sleep. I sleep well in the jet, and I often sleep well in the hotel.

Anyway, that's west coast guppy flying. Start with a redeye.
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Old 07-07-2024, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
new guy here (waiting on class date) so sorry for probably dumb question, whats “ANF”?
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Old 07-07-2024, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
new guy here (waiting on class date) so sorry for probably dumb question, whats “ANF”?
🤯 holy heck! You’re coming to UAL?!?

man….Spirit must be hurting way worse than I realized. Sorry you had to leave so much seniority. This industry is a ba$tard.
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Old 07-07-2024, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Stinger6
I look at the junior lines on the 737 and they look a LOT tougher on the body than the Global WB trips. They start with ANF single leg, min rest and 2 legs until midnight, medium rest and 3 legs to rush hour traffic. Come back in 25 hours and do it again. Take 3 days off and do it again. I'm in my 50s, I need the money, but NB CA is going to be the death of me compared to the gentle pace of the global flying. Global looks like it has 3 circadian swaps a month. NB CA looks like it has 6, with no bunk and no international lounges.

Everyone is different, but I just don't see how NB is easier on the body.
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For me on the WB I sleep for shorter spells, but I sleep very well during those spells, either on the jet or one of my 2-3 sleeps in the hotel ha.
i love the one leg and done, minimal disrupting factors (weather/maintenance etc.) and being somewhere else in the world. I’m glad that with the movement we’ve had everyone can find their place for the most part where they want to be.
Same here. I'm tired on the WB at times, but it's a different type of tired. Sort of like acute on the WB and chronic on the NB. The delays, multiple legs, wx, maintenance, multiple nights in hotels, etc is just a drag after a while. The big caveat as always is sleeping on the plane, which I do quite well. If you can sleep on the plane, there are a lot less variables to manage. One over, one back, done...
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Old 07-07-2024, 05:44 AM
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Old 07-07-2024, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
🤯 holy heck! You’re coming to UAL?!?

man….Spirit must be hurting way worse than I realized. Sorry you had to leave so much seniority. This industry is a ba$tard.
it’s all good. I think Spirit will be fine, however with 23 years left, and always wanting to work for UAL, I figure now is probably still a decent time to make the jump 🤞🏼
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it’s all good. I think Spirit will be fine, however with 23 years left, and always wanting to work for UAL, I figure now is probably still a decent time to make the jump 🤞🏼
Welcome to the jungle!!
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Old 07-07-2024, 06:19 AM
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🤯 holy heck! You’re coming to UAL?!?

man….Spirit must be hurting way worse than I realized. Sorry you had to leave so much seniority. This industry is a ba$tard.
There are lot of us with great seniority leaving NK. I’m just shy of 13 years and I’m about average with those leaving.
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Old 07-07-2024, 12:41 PM
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same...... filler
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