Originally Posted by Guppydriver95

The 2 things I’ve seen that help the operation by meeting early(one hour out) in ops are 1) if an airplane needs to be refused, you can do it an hour out vs 45 minutes out at the airplane, giving the company more time to address the issue. 2) if we need more gas, calling dispatch earlier than when we get to the plane is better for keeping the operation on time as well.

Originally Posted by Guppydriver95

The 2 things I’ve seen that help the operation by meeting early(one hour out) in ops are 1) if an airplane needs to be refused, you can do it an hour out vs 45 minutes out at the airplane, giving the company more time to address the issue. 2) if we need more gas, calling dispatch earlier than when we get to the plane is better for keeping the operation on time as well.

Originally Posted by Hedley

It's really not much of an issue being that the vast majority of captains tell the FO to meet at the plane. I'm IAH based on the 737 where the norm is to meet at the plane. A captain wanting to meet in ops is extremely rare. I had a recent trip fall apart and ended up getting a DEN based FO. He said that over 75% of the captains establish the plane as the meeting place. Of those who do want to meet in ops, it's more of a cultural thing thing than anything else. Our manual says meet in ops unless the captain establishes another place. The real jerks are the captains who don't text the person that they're flying with and then don't go to ops. If you want to meet at the plane, have the common courtesy to let the other pilot know so that they don't have to go to ops and wait for a no show. My technique is to always text and say to meet at the plane (we have a 1 hr show for the first flight on a domestic pairing). When they respond I tell them that they can start us out if they'd like. Flying pilot loads the box, monitoring pilot takes a walk. It seems to work for me.

Originally Posted by Hedley

It's really not much of an issue being that the vast majority of captains tell the FO to meet at the plane. I'm IAH based on the 737 where the norm is to meet at the plane. A captain wanting to meet in ops is extremely rare. I had a recent trip fall apart and ended up getting a DEN based FO. He said that over 75% of the captains establish the plane as the meeting place. Of those who do want to meet in ops, it's more of a cultural thing thing than anything else. Our manual says meet in ops unless the captain establishes another place. The real jerks are the captains who don't text the person that they're flying with and then don't go to ops. If you want to meet at the plane, have the common courtesy to let the other pilot know so that they don't have to go to ops and wait for a no show. My technique is to always text and say to meet at the plane (we have a 1 hr show for the first flight on a domestic pairing). When they respond I tell them that they can start us out if they'd like. Flying pilot loads the box, monitoring pilot takes a walk. It seems to work for me.

Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs

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Originally Posted by BitterAAhole

And people have the nerve to call AA pilots skyn@zis.
Other than the hat and blazer wearing kapos pilots we're a pretty laid back and down to earth group.

I think the point of everyone's outrage is that this shouldn't be a thing. Kind of like mandatory hats and blazers. "It's not that bad" is a cope

Originally Posted by BitterAAhole

Maybe you missed the part where I said it's not about how "few" actually do it rather than that it's written in your manuals in the first place.

Originally Posted by Knotcher

If you go straight to the plane you do can do both as well an hour out...why do you assume you lose 15 minutes? Also the quicker the FO does the walk around the sooner you can get something that needs addressed fixed.

Originally Posted by Guppydriver95

The 2 things I’ve seen that help the operation by meeting early(one hour out) in ops are 1) if an airplane needs to be refused, you can do it an hour out vs 45 minutes out at the airplane, giving the company more time to address the issue. 2) if we need more gas, calling dispatch earlier than when we get to the plane is better for keeping the operation on time as well.

Originally Posted by demonrat

How do you brief in Flight Path Angle?

Originally Posted by Hedley

We can do all of that stuff from the plane just as easy as in ops. Being that we get the flight plans 1.5 - 2 hours out, we could even do that from the hotel if you're a check the paperwork early kind of guy.