Crew Scheduling Treatment
06-29-2024, 08:11 AM
#21
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
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As far as reassignments, when a flight needs a new crewmember on short notice, the company can assign a field standby, a short-call, or reassign someone already on a trip. Those are the only options. Which do we want the company to use? Do we want more FSBs or less? Do we want a longer SC call-out period or a shorter one? Do we want more reassignments or fewer? We can structure the contract to favor whichever option we prefer. The trend seemed to me in negotiations was to disincentivise FSB and, to some extent, short-notice SCs. That leaves reassignments.
06-29-2024, 08:34 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
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Regional schedule and scheduling was wayyyy better. Gonna double down big time on this one. Longer overnights to get exercise and explore. Time for a meal or two with crew. None of this min rest BS all the time. And dont forget partial trip drops. Drop that turn at the end of your pairing should you start getting fatigued. These schedules here are all
min rest and late early late flip flops.
min rest and late early late flip flops.
06-29-2024, 09:05 AM
#24
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Joined APC: Dec 2008
Position: 320 Captain
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Regional schedule and scheduling was wayyyy better. Gonna double down big time on this one. Longer overnights to get exercise and explore. Time for a meal or two with crew. None of this min rest BS all the time. And dont forget partial trip drops. Drop that turn at the end of your pairing should you start getting fatigued. These schedules here are all min rest and late early late flip flops.
06-29-2024, 09:12 AM
#25
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
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Regional schedule and scheduling was wayyyy better. Gonna double down big time on this one. Longer overnights to get exercise and explore. Time for a meal or two with crew. None of this min rest BS all the time. And dont forget partial trip drops. Drop that turn at the end of your pairing should you start getting fatigued. These schedules here are all
min rest and late early late flip flops.
min rest and late early late flip flops.
Most of my layovers have been on the longer side, 15 to 20 hours on average here where as my regional schedule were min rest to 13 hours on average.
The early to late or late to early swaps sucks. But that is likely to the nature of flying we do. The regionals flying is usually concentrated in one region of the country that makes those swaps less likely to happen, but they are there.
I say this has a jr NB CA.
Anyways, this next point isn’t directly aimed towards you Goose but the OP. Know the contract, don’t be trying to make deals outside of the contract. Like every contract, there are holes that will benefit the company and holes that benefit us as a pilot group. Know the rules of the game then play the game using those rules to maximize your benefit and minimize the companies.
06-29-2024, 10:08 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Oct 2023
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Crew Scheduling here is worse than the regionals by far
Lies and mistreatment
Non-stop reassignments
Going out of hierarchy order
Line holders getting reassignments like crazy feels like reserve
Makes deals and than takes it back once you finish the flight.
More lies and manipulation
Culture from crew scheduling is pretty toxic
Fly Safe out there
Lies and mistreatment
Non-stop reassignments
Going out of hierarchy order
Line holders getting reassignments like crazy feels like reserve
Makes deals and than takes it back once you finish the flight.
More lies and manipulation
Culture from crew scheduling is pretty toxic
Fly Safe out there
06-29-2024, 10:18 AM
#27
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Joined APC: Mar 2018
Posts: 2,501
Before leaving my house for a trip, I’ve had a 4 day turned into a 5 day due to a cancellation on day 2, and multiple times being reassigned into a day off. I wouldn’t say it’s a common occurrence, but the UPA gives the company the ability to take away your day off if they really need you (outside of WX and MX issues of course). Why do we have FDOs and RDOs? Last summer I was used nearly every month on my FDOs. Should I make plans on my first reserve day after my FDO because that’s what I usually end up getting off? The company has to pay out pretty big to work you into your day off, why not force that flying into open time and PP where it will get eaten up like candy by someone who actually wants to work on their day off.
I think I had you confused with someone more senior. Being on reserve or a junior lineholder is a grind.
06-29-2024, 04:28 PM
#29
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Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 847
Regional schedule and scheduling was wayyyy better. Gonna double down big time on this one. Longer overnights to get exercise and explore. Time for a meal or two with crew. None of this min rest BS all the time. And dont forget partial trip drops. Drop that turn at the end of your pairing should you start getting fatigued. These schedules here are all
min rest and late early late flip flops.
min rest and late early late flip flops.
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