Crew Scheduling Treatment
#11
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Position: 18%er but I’ll enforce UPA23 to the last period.
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That many reassignments sounds very fatiguing. As far as "making deals" goes, we have a contract which specifies what "deals" can be made. If you feel something isn't compliant there is a PDR to the hotline to get them involved. Also ask for an "order to fly". FODM has to issue that and if they don't it's because what is going down isn't UPA compliant and you don't have to accept the assignment.
#12
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What kind of trips do you fly? Getting reassigned into a day off is a very intermittent but kind of seasonal thing but it’s definitely happening. Junior captain in ‘22 I lost 4 days off through the summer shenanigans (Kirby’s TEB ejection) next year wasn’t nearly as bad but I would say you will likely lose one day in a year if you do four days. It’s more a case of getting delayed into the following day or misconnecting the go home leg.
if you can get your trips to finish in the AM, this is a thousand times less likely. YMMV.
if you can get your trips to finish in the AM, this is a thousand times less likely. YMMV.
#14
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Ridiculous. Our pbs sucks, certain sections of our contract are weak, but you are delusional to think we are anywhere near a regional. Rode that pony for a decade. Unfortunately many here don’t read the contract and rely on pdr for basic, easily searchable references. Every time the contract bit me it also benefited me somewhere else and if you escalate above scheduling when the holds are ridiculous you self help. Every “reasonable expense” has been paid. Airlines melt down and you are a professional that deserves to be treated as such. Read the contract, follow the contract, and when you aren’t safe don’t fly. Summer meltdowns, winter meltdowns, and reassignments suck but it’s part of the job. If you’re getting abused you probably aren’t fit to fly on some level. You don’t work deals with scheduling… that is telling them you don’t know/respect the contract and you will be their play thing.
#16
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What kind of trips do you fly? Getting reassigned into a day off is a very intermittent but kind of seasonal thing but it’s definitely happening. Junior captain in ‘22 I lost 4 days off through the summer shenanigans (Kirby’s TEB ejection) next year wasn’t nearly as bad but I would say you will likely lose one day in a year if you do four days. It’s more a case of getting delayed into the following day or misconnecting the go home leg.
if you can get your trips to finish in the AM, this is a thousand times less likely. YMMV.
if you can get your trips to finish in the AM, this is a thousand times less likely. YMMV.
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As far as reassignments, when a flight needs a new crewmember on short notice, the company can assign a field standby, a short-call, or reassign someone already on a trip. Those are the only options. Which do we want the company to use? Do we want more FSBs or less? Do we want a longer SC call-out period or a shorter one? Do we want more reassignments or fewer? We can structure the contract to favor whichever option we prefer. The trend seemed to me in negotiations was to disincentivise FSB and, to some extent, short-notice SCs. That leaves reassignments.
#19
Crew Scheduling here is worse than the regionals by far
Lies and mistreatment
Non-stop reassignments
Going out of hierarchy order
Line holders getting reassignments like crazy feels like reserve
Makes deals and than takes it back once you finish the flight.
More lies and manipulation
Culture from crew scheduling is pretty toxic
Fly Safe out there
Lies and mistreatment
Non-stop reassignments
Going out of hierarchy order
Line holders getting reassignments like crazy feels like reserve
Makes deals and than takes it back once you finish the flight.
More lies and manipulation
Culture from crew scheduling is pretty toxic
Fly Safe out there
#20
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 265
Crew scheduling is not a minimum wage job.
As far as reassignments, when a flight needs a new crewmember on short notice, the company can assign a field standby, a short-call, or reassign someone already on a trip. Those are the only options. Which do we want the company to use? Do we want more FSBs or less? Do we want a longer SC call-out period or a shorter one? Do we want more reassignments or fewer? We can structure the contract to favor whichever option we prefer. The trend seemed to me in negotiations was to disincentivise FSB and, to some extent, short-notice SCs. That leaves reassignments.
As far as reassignments, when a flight needs a new crewmember on short notice, the company can assign a field standby, a short-call, or reassign someone already on a trip. Those are the only options. Which do we want the company to use? Do we want more FSBs or less? Do we want a longer SC call-out period or a shorter one? Do we want more reassignments or fewer? We can structure the contract to favor whichever option we prefer. The trend seemed to me in negotiations was to disincentivise FSB and, to some extent, short-notice SCs. That leaves reassignments.
Your analysis is pretty spot on though, because they have to find someone from somewhere and they don’t want to pay us for FSB. I think another factor has also been staffing. Up until recently the NBCA seat has been extremely short staffed, but in the past few months they’ve been able to at least get the number of pilots on short call mostly in line with the short call matrix. Hopefully that will help some with reassignments, but if it’s last minute coverage it’s probably going to end up in a reassignment.
Last edited by glassnpowder98; 06-29-2024 at 07:52 AM.
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