New reserve rules
07-11-2024, 06:41 AM
#51
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I have no idea how it’s going to be presented. I also don’t think this particular bid is going to be very representative of how senior these lines go in the longer term. I guessing there are a lot of more senior pilots who will be perfectly happy to let people junior to them experiment with the new stuff. Especially in a summer month. Nothing at all wrong with that.
07-11-2024, 08:53 AM
#52
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I'd like to think that since they currently indicate non-profile reserve lines that they'll differentiate the new categories as well. We'll see in a few days I guess.
07-11-2024, 09:35 AM
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From page 25 of the ARGUP: "All specialized line types are optional in PBS with Traditional Reserve being the default bid option. If a Pilot preferencing Reserve does not bid for a specialized reserve line within a bid group, does not have the seniority to hold the Reserve line type that was preferenced, or bid groups containing a specialized reserve type fail, a Traditional Reserve (TRV) Line will be awarded with the other commands (‘AWARD’, ‘AVOID’, ‘MUST AWARD’, etc.) from that bid group honored, if possible."
To me, that reads that the set commands for the new bid groups wont necesarrily fail if it can still award you traditional reserve with the restrictions. Does that sound right to anyone else? Not sure if I should put separate bid groups in without the set command.
To me, that reads that the set commands for the new bid groups wont necesarrily fail if it can still award you traditional reserve with the restrictions. Does that sound right to anyone else? Not sure if I should put separate bid groups in without the set command.
Unfortunately too late for the August period now but hopefully anyone unsure about this also reached out to the PBS help resources or put in backup bid groups just in case.
07-11-2024, 10:02 AM
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07-11-2024, 11:38 AM
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So it turns out this part of the reserve guide is wrong. If you SET a LCL preference and don’t have the seniority for it, the bid group fails and moves on to the next. So basically follow up that bid group with a similar one without the SET command.
Unfortunately too late for the August period now but hopefully anyone unsure about this also reached out to the PBS help resources or put in backup bid groups just in case.
Unfortunately too late for the August period now but hopefully anyone unsure about this also reached out to the PBS help resources or put in backup bid groups just in case.
07-11-2024, 12:28 PM
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07-11-2024, 01:59 PM
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Captain awards are starting to drop. From a quick run through, the reserve awards don’t look any different than the past. It doesn’t appear there’s any way to tell exactly which type of reserve was awarded. I guess to know that info a pilot will have to wait for their individual award report.
07-15-2024, 12:35 PM
#58
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SET commands by default fail if the underlying bid lines contained within it cannot be fulfilled… so the guide is correct. Correct way to bid these is using the SET command and choosing the special reserve line like LCL… then the following bid group remove the SET command and you’ll be awarded a traditional reserve line if you can’t hold the LCL.
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