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Old 07-03-2024, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
That’s exactly right. That is also why, especially as a junior bidder, you should have many bid groups, each subsequently relaxing the constraints to get most of what you want. If a preceding one fails, it moves on to the next BG.
Ahhh. Gotcha. That makes sense. Going to give both BidNsv and ProBid+ the same wishes and see if they return similar suggestions.

All I really want as a commuter to reserve is:
* min off days between work blocks: 3

* max work block length: 4

* last day release before 2031 LBT (so I can catch the 2200 IAH-SFO on us)
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Old 07-03-2024, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Ahhh. Gotcha. That makes sense. Going to give both BidNsv and ProBid+ the same wishes and see if they return similar suggestions.

All I really want as a commuter to reserve is:
* min off days between work blocks: 3

* max work block length: 4

* last day release before 2031 LBT (so I can catch the 2200 IAH-SFO on us)
That last line will fail AFAIK because reserve days are in 1-day blocks, not release times. Release time is dictated whether you're on SC or LC going into the last day. Basically all you can ask for is which days you want off.
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Old 07-03-2024, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by khergan
That last line will fail AFAIK because reserve days are in 1-day blocks, not release times. Release time is dictated whether you're on SC or LC going into the last day. Basically all you can ask for is which days you want off.
Never mind, I'm an idiot lol. The last one is in the line bid I'm going to throw in there, just in case reserve goes senior...
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Old 07-03-2024, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyShacklferd
Has anyone figured out how to actually bid for a VEC reserve schedule? Can’t seem to find the option in PBS
Great question .......I've only seen any reference to it in the ARGUP that 31 page document the Sched committee sent out. Otherwise help videos I don't think have been updated.
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Old 07-03-2024, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbosina
Never mind, I'm an idiot lol. The last one is in the line bid I'm going to throw in there, just in case reserve goes senior...
Don’t forget to use the BAT. It’ll trap those errors that cause BGs to fail regardless of your seniority.
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Old 07-06-2024, 05:14 PM
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From page 25 of the ARGUP: "All specialized line types are optional in PBS with Traditional Reserve being the default bid option. If a Pilot preferencing Reserve does not bid for a specialized reserve line within a bid group, does not have the seniority to hold the Reserve line type that was preferenced, or bid groups containing a specialized reserve type fail, a Traditional Reserve (TRV) Line will be awarded with the other commands (‘AWARD’, ‘AVOID’, ‘MUST AWARD’, etc.) from that bid group honored, if possible."

To me, that reads that the set commands for the new bid groups wont necesarrily fail if it can still award you traditional reserve with the restrictions. Does that sound right to anyone else? Not sure if I should put separate bid groups in without the set command.
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Old 07-06-2024, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Hangman
From page 25 of the ARGUP: "All specialized line types are optional in PBS with Traditional Reserve being the default bid option. If a Pilot preferencing Reserve does not bid for a specialized reserve line within a bid group, does not have the seniority to hold the Reserve line type that was preferenced, or bid groups containing a specialized reserve type fail, a Traditional Reserve (TRV) Line will be awarded with the other commands (‘AWARD’, ‘AVOID’, ‘MUST AWARD’, etc.) from that bid group honored, if possible."

To me, that reads that the set commands for the new bid groups wont necesarrily fail if it can still award you traditional reserve with the restrictions. Does that sound right to anyone else? Not sure if I should put separate bid groups in without the set command.
This is the EXACT question I have with my bidding scenario right now too. I've had a few people explain it to me one way and a few people explain it to me the other way......
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Old 07-06-2024, 06:13 PM
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If the Set command for the Reserve Type can’t be honored the bid group will fail, same as with any other Set command. Best to back up your bid groups if you’re also wanting to bid specific days off along with one of the new reserve types.

FWIW, the general consensus among the PBS folks is that the special reserve types will probably go pretty senior, so don’t waste too much personal bandwidth (or too many bid groups) on bidding for them if you’re at the bottom of your category.

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Old 07-09-2024, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FLARE99
This is the EXACT question I have with my bidding scenario right now too. I've had a few people explain it to me one way and a few people explain it to me the other way......
Without being able to look it up specifically right now I would read it as if the SET fails the bid group will fail. If it’s your last bid group that is what goes to completion mode where the systems starts to toss out preferences in a specific order. SETS and I think limits go out the window first and as if it has to go further into completion mode more preferences get moved down depending on where it has to throw the AWARD work/reserve statement to get to a solution. So yes it would try to honor as many preferences as possible if it can’t award a specific type of reserve but it will be in the completion mode(s).
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Old 07-11-2024, 06:25 AM
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I want to see how sr each type of new reserve goes. Will we be able to tell when the bid results come out which type of rsv line each pilot was awarded or will they all be listed as "rsv" ??
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