New reserve rules
06-27-2024, 01:19 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Position: Big foot
Posts: 449
Agree long call will be senior, especially on the 787. Not good for me but I'm not complaining life is GREAT!
My previous company HA, is probably looking at bankruptcy if AS doesn't save them and their flight division is having flight crews fly like Asian carriers, FOs pushback, taxi and become (FO Captains) LOL ... LIFE IS GOOD here...
In Unity...
My previous company HA, is probably looking at bankruptcy if AS doesn't save them and their flight division is having flight crews fly like Asian carriers, FOs pushback, taxi and become (FO Captains) LOL ... LIFE IS GOOD here...
In Unity...
06-27-2024, 03:12 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Posts: 608
Unused short call is currently an hour of add pay which will change to an hour increase to MPG. I have been historically flying above MPG so it will probably result in a loss of money for me. However, if I can hold VEC, starting MPG might be high enough to not break guarantee and still get paid for unused short calls. I was also disappointed to learn that the company gets to choose between VEC and VSC lines- it’s not both.
3-C-1-b-(1)-(a) A Reserve’s MPG shall increase by one (1) hour for each unused Short Call assignment. A used Short Call assignment is one in which the Pilot is assigned (that is, not picked up) to a Trip scheduled to report within eighteen (18) hours of the time the Trip assignment is made, or twelve (12) hours if the Pilot is a VEC.
06-28-2024, 01:43 AM
#25
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Joined APC: Nov 2009
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I agree, I think the new rules tilt in favor of the company (MPG increase instead of add pay). Also, pay close attention to the new language as to what is considered used/unused on short call -- that changes in August, too. See below:
The old provision was when a trip is assigned within 13 hours. Under the new rules, CS could assign you a trip at the very end of your short call which reports in 17 hours 59 minutes thereby making your short call 'used' even though being assigned similarly to a long call. The good news is that the 20-I-6-a-(1)-(d) assignment ladder should in theory keep this from being abused as long call pilots *should* be used first.
The old provision was when a trip is assigned within 13 hours. Under the new rules, CS could assign you a trip at the very end of your short call which reports in 17 hours 59 minutes thereby making your short call 'used' even though being assigned similarly to a long call. The good news is that the 20-I-6-a-(1)-(d) assignment ladder should in theory keep this from being abused as long call pilots *should* be used first.
06-28-2024, 03:25 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Feb 2017
Posts: 1,352
I agree, I think the new rules tilt in favor of the company (MPG increase instead of add pay). Also, pay close attention to the new language as to what is considered used/unused on short call -- that changes in August, too. See below:
The old provision was when a trip is assigned within 13 hours. Under the new rules, CS could assign you a trip at the very end of your short call which reports in 17 hours 59 minutes thereby making your short call 'used' even though being assigned similarly to a long call. The good news is that the 20-I-6-a-(1)-(d) assignment ladder should in theory keep this from being abused as long call pilots *should* be used first.
The old provision was when a trip is assigned within 13 hours. Under the new rules, CS could assign you a trip at the very end of your short call which reports in 17 hours 59 minutes thereby making your short call 'used' even though being assigned similarly to a long call. The good news is that the 20-I-6-a-(1)-(d) assignment ladder should in theory keep this from being abused as long call pilots *should* be used first.
so I got called 9 hours and 20 minutes after my short call started, for scheduling to rest reset me for a report time that was 12.5 hours later. That’s a used short call, and I got absolutely nothing from it.
IMO, if you aren’t used during your 14 hour window, you should be off the hook and you’re unused.
06-29-2024, 06:37 PM
#28
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
Posts: 535
I hate our “used” short call rules. You have a 14 hour SC window, but after 9 hours, you go to a 12 hour callout.
so I got called 9 hours and 20 minutes after my short call started, for scheduling to rest reset me for a report time that was 12.5 hours later. That’s a used short call, and I got absolutely nothing from it.
IMO, if you aren’t used during your 14 hour window, you should be off the hook and you’re unused.
so I got called 9 hours and 20 minutes after my short call started, for scheduling to rest reset me for a report time that was 12.5 hours later. That’s a used short call, and I got absolutely nothing from it.
IMO, if you aren’t used during your 14 hour window, you should be off the hook and you’re unused.
07-03-2024, 10:17 AM
#30
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: 767/757 CA
Posts: 2,683
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