IAH reserve survival guide
06-14-2024, 06:57 AM
#71
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Pretty much every question the OP asked here could and would be answered by his/her *ALPA MENTOR*.
There's nothing wrong with a little banter on the interwebs, of course, but your *ALPA MENTOR* should be your primary source for correct information and advice during probation, where (not to be dramatic, but....) your career kind of depends on it.
There's nothing wrong with a little banter on the interwebs, of course, but your *ALPA MENTOR* should be your primary source for correct information and advice during probation, where (not to be dramatic, but....) your career kind of depends on it.
06-14-2024, 07:52 AM
#72
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Originally Posted by PossibleDeviation;[url=tel:3811260
3811260]That needs to be removed and attitudes need to change then. That's what a commuter policy is for. If I can't make it, after trying and abiding by the poicy set in the CBA, then remove me from the trip and put a reserve on it. This isn't difficult people
No sympathy for someone who would refuse to go in day before when an obvious storm is rolling g through the country and can’t get to work.
oh, I’m a commuter too, gone in a day early plenty of times. Also the reason I’m moving to base.
06-14-2024, 08:51 AM
#73
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pretty much every question the op asked here could and would be answered by his/her *alpa mentor*.
There's nothing wrong with a little banter on the interwebs, of course, but your *alpa mentor* should be your primary source for correct information and advice during probation, where (not to be dramatic, but....) your career kind of depends on it.
There's nothing wrong with a little banter on the interwebs, of course, but your *alpa mentor* should be your primary source for correct information and advice during probation, where (not to be dramatic, but....) your career kind of depends on it.
06-14-2024, 09:12 AM
#74
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Pretty much every question the OP asked here could and would be answered by his/her *ALPA MENTOR*.
There's nothing wrong with a little banter on the interwebs, of course, but your *ALPA MENTOR* should be your primary source for correct information and advice during probation, where (not to be dramatic, but....) your career kind of depends on it.
There's nothing wrong with a little banter on the interwebs, of course, but your *ALPA MENTOR* should be your primary source for correct information and advice during probation, where (not to be dramatic, but....) your career kind of depends on it.
Seeing a multitude of "perspectives" is more information, especially for a new hire on probation. More information might allow for a better decision
Forewarned is forarmed, especially when you are not protected by the PWA. Even if the "ALPA MENTOR" tells you just use "standard commuter policy" and you'll be OK, hopefully you have at least heard the vagaries that may be inherent in enforcement, depending on the enforcers perspective.
06-14-2024, 10:24 AM
#75
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I doubt that any mentor would say that. I suppose it's possible, but it would be exceedingly bad advice.
06-14-2024, 11:50 AM
#76
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Joined APC: Mar 2021
Posts: 25
That’s like saying I shouldn’t have to consider well established rush hour traffic. Flight will leave when I get there. I leave my house when google says without traffic..
No sympathy for someone who would refuse to go in day before when an obvious storm is rolling g through the country and can’t get to work.
oh, I’m a commuter too, gone in a day early plenty of times. Also the reason I’m moving to base.
No sympathy for someone who would refuse to go in day before when an obvious storm is rolling g through the country and can’t get to work.
oh, I’m a commuter too, gone in a day early plenty of times. Also the reason I’m moving to base.
It's not at all like saying that. What you're saying is we should leave our homes an hour earlier than required because there might be a car accident along our route. Much like car accidents, weather and common commuting issues are unpredictable. This language should absolutely be removed from the next contract.
Even at the LCC I'm currently at if you miss your first option they'll consider replacing you with a reserve in base. And if you miss your second option it's no questions asked either they drop the trip entirely, put you on reserve for the following days, or give you a new trip in the same footprint.
Obviously there will be instances where the commuter policy is abused and those should be handled on a case by case basis. We are adults and should be treated as such.
06-14-2024, 05:11 PM
#77
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jul 2023
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It's not at all like saying that. What you're saying is we should leave our homes an hour earlier than required because there might be a car accident along our route. Much like car accidents, weather and common commuting issues are unpredictable. This language should absolutely be removed from the next contract.
Even at the LCC I'm currently at if you miss your first option they'll consider replacing you with a reserve in base. And if you miss your second option it's no questions asked either they drop the trip entirely, put you on reserve for the following days, or give you a new trip in the same footprint.
Obviously there will be instances where the commuter policy is abused and those should be handled on a case by case basis. We are adults and should be treated as such.
Even at the LCC I'm currently at if you miss your first option they'll consider replacing you with a reserve in base. And if you miss your second option it's no questions asked either they drop the trip entirely, put you on reserve for the following days, or give you a new trip in the same footprint.
Obviously there will be instances where the commuter policy is abused and those should be handled on a case by case basis. We are adults and should be treated as such.
06-15-2024, 07:31 AM
#78
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 2,151
It's actually kind of shocking that it's common knowledge at U and accepted that the contract doesn't apply to newhires and they can be fired for complying with the commuter clause. That's an outlier from all the legacies and even the LCCs for the most part. On most properties it would have to several instances of serious abuse and irresponsibility before the CPs even got involved and then it would be coaching. From what you guys are saying this sounds like 2 strikes you're out commuting and really the entire contract is a gray area for newhires. Do you guys actually see a lot of probies fired? Or is this just some sort of hazing/tough talk? Can scheduling just assign them anything too? Sounds like SkyWest.
06-15-2024, 07:33 AM
#79
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officially it says something like “normal” traffic or so.
06-15-2024, 08:23 AM
#80
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If you are driving, the official answer is, traffic, no matter what the cause, "Get there when you can. Let us know when you have a best guess." As stated, communication is the key, be up front and honest as to what is going on. More than likely, if there is a major traffic event, other pilots will be affected as well as passengers. Now, don't make a habbit of being late, but it's actually a reasonable response from the company--shocking, I know!
The reason being, if you are being pressured to drive fast and have an accident, UAL becomes libel for a law suit.
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