Stuck laptop = divert immediately
05-21-2024, 04:24 PM
#21
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oh okay that’s way different than a laptop stuck in a seat.
all the comments saying “this was the right call;” the article didn’t really mention any specifics about what happened, so there is honestly no way to say what the “right” call was unless you had more information but didn’t share it (like this cargo bin info). And just because they contacted dispatch or MX doesn’t mean anything. If the crew was concerned about safety (which, we’ve all met pilots who don’t care as much about safety and some who are more conservative), all they had to do was say “we’re concerned” and then the divert decision is basically made.
all the comments saying “this was the right call;” the article didn’t really mention any specifics about what happened, so there is honestly no way to say what the “right” call was unless you had more information but didn’t share it (like this cargo bin info). And just because they contacted dispatch or MX doesn’t mean anything. If the crew was concerned about safety (which, we’ve all met pilots who don’t care as much about safety and some who are more conservative), all they had to do was say “we’re concerned” and then the divert decision is basically made.
05-21-2024, 06:16 PM
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oh okay that’s way different than a laptop stuck in a seat.
all the comments saying “this was the right call;” the article didn’t really mention any specifics about what happened, so there is honestly no way to say what the “right” call was unless you had more information but didn’t share it (like this cargo bin info). And just because they contacted dispatch or MX doesn’t mean anything. If the crew was concerned about safety (which, we’ve all met pilots who don’t care as much about safety and some who are more conservative), all they had to do was say “we’re concerned” and then the divert decision is basically made.
all the comments saying “this was the right call;” the article didn’t really mention any specifics about what happened, so there is honestly no way to say what the “right” call was unless you had more information but didn’t share it (like this cargo bin info). And just because they contacted dispatch or MX doesn’t mean anything. If the crew was concerned about safety (which, we’ve all met pilots who don’t care as much about safety and some who are more conservative), all they had to do was say “we’re concerned” and then the divert decision is basically made.
05-22-2024, 05:56 AM
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oh okay that’s way different than a laptop stuck in a seat.
all the comments saying “this was the right call;” the article didn’t really mention any specifics about what happened, so there is honestly no way to say what the “right” call was unless you had more information but didn’t share it (like this cargo bin info). And just because they contacted dispatch or MX doesn’t mean anything. If the crew was concerned about safety (which, we’ve all met pilots who don’t care as much about safety and some who are more conservative), all they had to do was say “we’re concerned” and then the divert decision is basically made.
all the comments saying “this was the right call;” the article didn’t really mention any specifics about what happened, so there is honestly no way to say what the “right” call was unless you had more information but didn’t share it (like this cargo bin info). And just because they contacted dispatch or MX doesn’t mean anything. If the crew was concerned about safety (which, we’ve all met pilots who don’t care as much about safety and some who are more conservative), all they had to do was say “we’re concerned” and then the divert decision is basically made.
05-22-2024, 06:07 AM
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There shouldn't have been an article in the first place. Ben Schlappig and his garbage website have quickly become a cancer on this industry. He strives to turn the mundane into clicks, and our industry is suffering for it. Now we have people like you second guessing other crewmembers for a mundane and routine diversion. All because of some clickbait website built by a guy who couldn't get a real job, but in spite of his dearth of journalistic talent, found a niche in pandering to the dumbest among us.
I can't stand that website.
05-22-2024, 06:13 AM
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oh okay that’s way different than a laptop stuck in a seat.
all the comments saying “this was the right call;” the article didn’t really mention any specifics about what happened, so there is honestly no way to say what the “right” call was unless you had more information but didn’t share it (like this cargo bin info). And just because they contacted dispatch or MX doesn’t mean anything. If the crew was concerned about safety (which, we’ve all met pilots who don’t care as much about safety and some who are more conservative), all they had to do was say “we’re concerned” and then the divert decision is basically made.
all the comments saying “this was the right call;” the article didn’t really mention any specifics about what happened, so there is honestly no way to say what the “right” call was unless you had more information but didn’t share it (like this cargo bin info). And just because they contacted dispatch or MX doesn’t mean anything. If the crew was concerned about safety (which, we’ve all met pilots who don’t care as much about safety and some who are more conservative), all they had to do was say “we’re concerned” and then the divert decision is basically made.
It was the right call.
Moreover, what was discovered after landing verified the correctness of the crew's decision. There is zero question here tha the crew made the correct call. The crew didn't have additional information, and made it correctly, precisely because they had no way of getting additional information. So long as that laptop was no longer a controlled item, and was in a place it could be compromised, it was enough. Whether it was actually compromised or not is irrelevant, and doesn't change the correctness of the decision. The diverted. It was the right call. End of story.
05-22-2024, 11:41 AM
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The article doesn't have to give you after-the-fact specifics about where the laptop was eventually located, or how it was extracted. That's irrelevant, and it's also information that the crew didn't have at the time they diverted. The fact that the laptop fell into the seat and was stuck there and couldn't be extracted, was enough. This was an exercise in potential: a potential very serious issue occurred, and the crew made the call that rather than risk that potential developing on a transatlantic flight, they'd divert and address it on the ground. There is absolutely a way to say it was the right call.
It was the right call.
Moreover, what was discovered after landing verified the correctness of the crew's decision. There is zero question here tha the crew made the correct call. The crew didn't have additional information, and made it correctly, precisely because they had no way of getting additional information. So long as that laptop was no longer a controlled item, and was in a place it could be compromised, it was enough. Whether it was actually compromised or not is irrelevant, and doesn't change the correctness of the decision. The diverted. It was the right call. End of story.
It was the right call.
Moreover, what was discovered after landing verified the correctness of the crew's decision. There is zero question here tha the crew made the correct call. The crew didn't have additional information, and made it correctly, precisely because they had no way of getting additional information. So long as that laptop was no longer a controlled item, and was in a place it could be compromised, it was enough. Whether it was actually compromised or not is irrelevant, and doesn't change the correctness of the decision. The diverted. It was the right call. End of story.
05-22-2024, 05:04 PM
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05-22-2024, 05:46 PM
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side note….had to have MX fish a cell phone out from under the floor boards on a 787. Same as this aircraft they had to remove panels in the cargo hold to get to it.
05-23-2024, 07:13 AM
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i once heard a test that was done to find out how much extra weight was being carried around based on trash and dirt under the floors. They throughly cleaned the aircraft during a D check and then re weighed it. The number had a 7 in it…..70 lbs seems to low but 700 seems to high….either way it’s a lot.
side note….had to have MX fish a cell phone out from under the floor boards on a 787. Same as this aircraft they had to remove panels in the cargo hold to get to it.
side note….had to have MX fish a cell phone out from under the floor boards on a 787. Same as this aircraft they had to remove panels in the cargo hold to get to it.
https://www.aviationpros.com/home/ne...lines-airplane
Imagine them gnawing through wiring insulation causing an electrical short over the mid-Atlantic (trying to stay on--or near--topic).
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