Another United Bird Goes Mudding
05-19-2024, 06:44 AM
#51
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if you’re familiar with the NASA ASAP program, FSAPs are basically ASAPs but for aircrews.
if you’re not familiar with the ASAP program, it’s when a pilot messes up and files a report saying “oops I messed up here’s what happened and what I should have done differently.”
as long as the pilot didn’t seriously violate any FARs or make the “mistake” intentionally, it’s a way to alleviate the chance of punitive action by showing you recognized the error and are going to prevent future mistakes.
if you’re not familiar with the ASAP program, it’s when a pilot messes up and files a report saying “oops I messed up here’s what happened and what I should have done differently.”
as long as the pilot didn’t seriously violate any FARs or make the “mistake” intentionally, it’s a way to alleviate the chance of punitive action by showing you recognized the error and are going to prevent future mistakes.
05-19-2024, 10:26 AM
#52
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,353
if you’re familiar with the NASA ASAP program, FSAPs are basically ASAPs but for aircrews.
if you’re not familiar with the ASAP program, it’s when a pilot messes up and files a report saying “oops I messed up here’s what happened and what I should have done differently.”
as long as the pilot didn’t seriously violate any FARs or make the “mistake” intentionally, it’s a way to alleviate the chance of punitive action by showing you recognized the error and are going to prevent future mistakes.
if you’re not familiar with the ASAP program, it’s when a pilot messes up and files a report saying “oops I messed up here’s what happened and what I should have done differently.”
as long as the pilot didn’t seriously violate any FARs or make the “mistake” intentionally, it’s a way to alleviate the chance of punitive action by showing you recognized the error and are going to prevent future mistakes.
05-19-2024, 10:31 AM
#53
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Position: A320 FO
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05-19-2024, 11:52 AM
#54
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Position: Guppy CA
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05-20-2024, 11:33 AM
#55
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Exactly. My standard response...., once we got down to taxi speed was "sorry I missed that last call...say again please"? Followed by, ugh was busy, but since I couldn't comply, I"ll be filing an FSAP". On the FSAP, I let them know the folly of such calls. I tried to get others to file FSAP's for every instance of stupid " expidite" clearances. That would put a stop to this.
"AJet 69, cleared to land runway 36, minimize time on runway, traffic 1.5 mile in trail"
Uh...not my problem you vectored tight/other guy didn't keep SA on spacing.
Last edited by Beech Dude; 05-20-2024 at 11:44 AM.
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