Can someone verify or deny this
05-14-2024, 03:10 PM
#491
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Huh? I’m not the one telling people to contact the JS chair for which like you said won’t receive any info and then complaining about the “flexing” online. Without info the the flexing will unfortunately continue.
05-14-2024, 05:13 PM
#492
Strike averted!
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,800
Had a great experience today—jumpseated along with a nonrev (wife) on UAL. Had exit rows waiting, a very welcoming crew, and were treated like gold. Meals and drinks on the house. Couldn’t have been treated any better. Great way to start our vacation! Thank you!
Yes, we had a laugh on the flight deck after I checked in and the captain said, “oh no!” I gave a peace offering of bars of chocolate—all good.
Yes, we had a laugh on the flight deck after I checked in and the captain said, “oh no!” I gave a peace offering of bars of chocolate—all good.
05-14-2024, 05:44 PM
#493
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,162
Had a great experience today—jumpseated along with a nonrev (wife) on UAL. Had exit rows waiting, a very welcoming crew, and were treated like gold. Meals and drinks on the house. Couldn’t have been treated any better. Great way to start our vacation! Thank you!
Yes, we had a laugh on the flight deck after I checked in and the captain said, “oh no!” I gave a peace offering of bars of chocolate—all good.
Yes, we had a laugh on the flight deck after I checked in and the captain said, “oh no!” I gave a peace offering of bars of chocolate—all good.
05-14-2024, 05:57 PM
#494
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Chief Pilot - "Seriously!?!"
"Yes, seriously. If he disagrees with my leadership style I leave."
05-15-2024, 03:38 AM
#496
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Joined APC: Jan 2023
Posts: 1,550
Had a great experience today—jumpseated along with a nonrev (wife) on UAL. Had exit rows waiting, a very welcoming crew, and were treated like gold. Meals and drinks on the house. Couldn’t have been treated any better. Great way to start our vacation! Thank you!
Yes, we had a laugh on the flight deck after I checked in and the captain said, “oh no!” I gave a peace offering of bars of chocolate—all good.
Yes, we had a laugh on the flight deck after I checked in and the captain said, “oh no!” I gave a peace offering of bars of chocolate—all good.
05-15-2024, 06:49 AM
#497
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 40,205
Union might give you a call due to reciprocity, but as long as you can articulate your reasons, non-issue.
Obviously doesn't apply to Feds or LCA.
05-15-2024, 06:53 AM
#498
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
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You're never required to give a courtesy call when filing an ASAP. That isn't what the program is for. There are lots of times when only old person in a crew files an ASAP and even when contacted, the other person refuses. The entire purpose of the ASAP program is data collection and trend analysis to help trap errors. In fact, the person on the JS is an additional crew member, not a "hitch-hiker." If you witness a safety issue as an ACM, you are encouraged to fill out an ASAP and no you don't need permission from the CA to do so.
And anyone claiming they are denying the JS because they are a distraction is gaslighting. They are doing it purely as punishment.
And anyone claiming they are denying the JS because they are a distraction is gaslighting. They are doing it purely as punishment.
Go read the ASAP guidance, it always tells you that both (all) crew must submit reports to ensure they're both covered.
Technically you *could* submit a unilateral asap, but that's very bad form.
Absolutely no reason under any circumstances to ever submit any kind of report to anybody without notifying those crew affected. Assuming they're not intentionally committing a federal felony.
05-15-2024, 06:58 AM
#499
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Joined APC: Apr 2015
Posts: 2,552
why you feel uncomfortable….
05-15-2024, 07:02 AM
#500
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Joined APC: Oct 2022
Posts: 141
I'm sorry, ASAP isn't a team activity. In fact, they will call you back and have you rewrite it if it sounds too much like it was collaboratively written..
ASAP is completely nonretributional as long as it doesn't involve willful acts of negligence or illegal activities. It's not being a dick to file an ASAP. It likely won't even get pulled for review. Why is everyone so afraid of ASAP?
ASAP is completely nonretributional as long as it doesn't involve willful acts of negligence or illegal activities. It's not being a dick to file an ASAP. It likely won't even get pulled for review. Why is everyone so afraid of ASAP?
I'm not afraid of ASAP, but I will make sure I will let my co-worker know if I intend to file one to give them that chance to file one as well. Up to them from that point if they want to. We are all adults.
You're right that ERC's frown upon copy and paste reports. They want the event from each others perspectives.
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