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Old 05-12-2024, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Honestly the email raised more questions than it answered. Honestly I think an explanation is due not some feel good message with a “trust us” narrative.
I felt the exact same way about the kumbaya response
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Old 05-12-2024, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Shenzi105
flap speed bug is the same, you're below the flap speed bug and playing with the speedbrake, you're playing with fire. I hope that a JS would raise their concern if I put myself in that situation and my monitoring pilot doesnt even notice it.
Heard the JS is definitely not a Karen, 5 years OA ERJ FO and 2 years UA 73 FO before 77.

And the "friend" is an aviation nerd engineer and AA Million Miler PAX who knows a thing or two
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Old 05-12-2024, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyStarbuck
Heard the JS is definitely not a Karen, 5 years OA ERJ FO and 2 years UA 73 FO before 77.

And the "friend" is an aviation nerd engineer and AA Million Miler PAX who knows a thing or two
He should have stuck with AA. I’m betting they will not be special friends anymore. Aww.
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Old 05-12-2024, 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyStarbuck
Heard the JS is definitely not a Karen, 5 years OA ERJ FO and 2 years UA 73 FO before 77.

And the "friend" is an aviation nerd engineer and AA Million Miler PAX who knows a thing or two
Knows a thing or two. That’s funny. Hopefully, he introduces himself to the cockpit on every flight so that the crew can rest assured he’s there. 🙄
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Old 05-12-2024, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Honestly the email raised more questions than it answered. Honestly I think an explanation is due not some feel good message with a “trust us” narrative.
Thats the last you will hear of this situation.......moving on.
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Old 05-12-2024, 11:09 AM
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Thats the last you will hear of this situation.......moving on.
Says whom?
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Old 05-12-2024, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Cyio
Honestly the email raised more questions than it answered. Honestly I think an explanation is due not some feel good message with a “trust us” narrative.
The whole point of institutions like Pro-Standards is to handle things that can be resolved discretely without elevating or escalating them. If your response to their conclusion is “now tell 17,000 of us exactly what happened so we can individually determine whether the resolution meets our personal satisfaction”, why have the resolution process at all? Why not skip the middle man & go straight to mob rule?

Maybe the unions are both coordinating a massive cover-up to keep us all in placated submission. Or maybe- just maybe- they’ve resolved the issue to their mutual satisfaction, & as is so often the case, we all would have been better off if the keyboard warrior who decided he needed to get his version of the story out there had just taken his concerns to the union & let the process play.
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Old 05-12-2024, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by nene
CA should have told the FAA, "yeah, glad you called, pretty sure that JS'er was drinking mini's during that flight, FO and I thought we smelled it on her breath"
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great idea .. tell the faa you saw her drinking on the flight deck or suspected her of drinking and and didn’t kick her to the back. Great plan!!!
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Old 05-12-2024, 01:01 PM
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If what I’ve read on this thread is accurate and the accused pilot went directly to the FAA instead of reporting it through the proper measures, she should be banned from occupying the jumpseat for life. No exceptions, she’s lost that privilege by her own actions.

The FAA considers you a crew member while occupying the jumpseat. If you witness an egregious error while jumpseating then it’s your duty to alert the crew. If they’re professionals, they’ll thank you for backing them up. If you’re a professional, you’ll thank them for the ride, and that’s where it ends.

If you’re a two-faced POS, you escalate the pilot error(s) by reporting the incident directly to the FAA with the clear intention of ruining the livelihood of those two pilots who were gracious enough to give you a free ride to/from work.

Pending the accuracy of this thread, I’m speculating there was a personal conflict that occurred during the ride up to SFO. I can think of a few personal (political) disagreements a SoCal gal might have with two Southwest male pilots over the age of 50… just a few…

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Old 05-12-2024, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RippinClapBombs
If what I’ve read on this thread is accurate and the accused pilot went directly to the FAA instead of reporting it through the proper measures, she should be banned from occupying the jumpseat for life. No exceptions, she’s lost that privilege by her own actions.

The FAA considers you a crew member while occupying the jumpseat. If you witness an egregious error while jumpseating then it’s your duty to alert the crew. If they’re professionals, they’ll thank you for backing them up. If you’re a professional, you’ll thank them for the ride, and that’s where it ends.

If you’re a two-faced POS, you escalate the pilot error(s) by reporting the incident directly to the FAA with the clear intention of ruining the livelihood of those two pilots who were gracious enough to give you a free ride to/from work.

Pending the accuracy of this thread, I’m speculating there was a personal conflict that occurred during the ride up to SFO. I can think of a few personal (political) disagreements a SoCal gal might have with two Southwest male pilots over the age of 50… just a few…
So you acknowledge you read the thread, ignored the posts where official sources say the rumors have factual errors and are wrong, acknowledged that you don't know the facts of the story, and then you go ahead and double down on it by adding another completely speculative rumor on the fire. That's a top notch APC post!!!
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