Can someone verify or deny this
05-10-2024, 06:18 PM
#311
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lol, settle down there Francis. Nobody is getting canned or sued. All this talk is hilarious. What's worse than a political discussion on message boards? Discussions about the law where everybody thinks they are a Lawyer. For the record I still have no idea what this broad’s name is so it can’t be out there that much. Also, newsflash, pilot’s names and addresses are publically available for all to see so it is hard to dox someone who is already public record.
05-10-2024, 06:25 PM
#312
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Yes, it does matter. Offline jumpseaters are not a protected class. There is no constitutional right or law that every person has to treat every other person exactly the same in all circumstances. Despite what some folks may have felt entitled to in their youth.
That's like suing someone because they failed to invite you to their party on Sat night. That's not fair right? I mean they invited OTHER people
That only exists in specifically legislated cases, of which there is getting to be a fairly large number these days but again "notorious offline jumpseater" is not a protected class at least not yet.
She would actually end up paying the defendent's legal fees because such a case would be quite clearly frivolous, and it would never get to a jury.
You can do an experiment... try to randomly sue someone for some made up perceived personal slight with no basis in the law and see what happens (hint: bring your checkbook).
That's like suing someone because they failed to invite you to their party on Sat night. That's not fair right? I mean they invited OTHER people
That only exists in specifically legislated cases, of which there is getting to be a fairly large number these days but again "notorious offline jumpseater" is not a protected class at least not yet.
She would actually end up paying the defendent's legal fees because such a case would be quite clearly frivolous, and it would never get to a jury.
You can do an experiment... try to randomly sue someone for some made up perceived personal slight with no basis in the law and see what happens (hint: bring your checkbook).
05-10-2024, 06:41 PM
#313
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When you are scared of your own shadow we get to where we are at in today's society. It's your flight deck while you occupy it. If you don't feel comfortable with someone mooching a ride for whatever reason you don't put yourself or your crew in jeopardy. You have enough stuff to worry about. Grow a spine and stop worrying about what a dumb twit might do to me through a lawsuit. You operate from a safety mindset, right? You can and absolutely should say no JS for you if you feel like it jeopardizes safety. Constantly wondering if the person behind me is gonna run to the FAA for anything is absolutely a distraction. How are you even arguing your side? This is idiotic.
05-10-2024, 07:20 PM
#314
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If it was, the few remaining scabs would be having a field day. They could spend their days off jumpseating to random locations and suing every CA and airline which denied them.
05-10-2024, 07:27 PM
#315
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very good points. I’m not at United but I’m following this story. Can you folks imagine the blowback from the industry if she started to triple down and sue one or more people for hurting her feelings. She would now no longer be as private as she claimes and everyone would know her. Side note, I heard she has an impressive social media presence, not too private.
https://onemileatatime.com/news/jump...Q51tjRP0Nw1U3n
05-10-2024, 07:28 PM
#316
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How about before we start a jumpseat war or treat someone like they are on the scab list, how about we wait for all the facts to come out? SWA, United, and ALPA are absolutely on the case. 9 times out of 10, the first story isn't correct. Do you remember the United pilot who got thrown under the bus for exposing himself at the DEN Westin? By the time all the facts came out, it was a much different story.
Maybe I'll get the scoop from friends eventually. If they exonerate her, I'm good with that. In the meantime I'm not going to have that looking over my shoulder on the job. Low odds that it would ever come up but not impossible, we operate that route and I've flown it.
05-10-2024, 07:33 PM
#317
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very good points. I’m not at United but I’m following this story. Can you folks imagine the blowback from the industry if she started to triple down and sue one or more people for hurting her feelings. She would now no longer be as private as she claimes and everyone would know her. Side note, I heard she has an impressive social media presence, not too private.
“Outing” her has less to do with telling people her name & everything to do with linking her name to a defamatory story you have no idea is true. (It’s one thing for me to post a link to your LinkedIn, it’s another for me to include that in a post claiming you assaulted my wife- see the difference?)
Look, I don’t know what happened. But neither does anyone here, & that’s the point. If it turns out the keyboard army was indeed spreading bogus claims, the fact that the pilot in question had a public Instagram is not gonna be the mic drop you think it is. And if she has even a moderately believable case that she’s being harassed over it, the company absolutely will provide themselves legal cover by disciplining involved individuals.
05-10-2024, 07:34 PM
#318
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Looks like it's a close friend now that made the call behind her back.
https://onemileatatime.com/news/jump...Q51tjRP0Nw1U3n
https://onemileatatime.com/news/jump...Q51tjRP0Nw1U3n
But either way, first rule of the fight club, so she still gets to carry the water.
In order for a hubby or "trusted friend" to have become sufficiently alarmed to actually call the FAA, I'd have to imagine there was some dramatic license going on. Play stoopid games...
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