Originally Posted by hummingbear

No I did not say that. The union’s job is to protect the pilot group- lying to 17,000 of us to shield one from the consequences of a bad decision doesn’t fall under that framework. Anyway, the import part of the message- which many are overlooking- is that sharing company obtained personal information could subject us to company discipline. That is the union functioning to protect us. Lying about what did or didn’t happen does nothing to further that message & I’d argue only undermines it when the lie is exposed. Doesn’t mean they’re not lying per se, just that it makes no logical sense for them to do so.

And cute that you feel UAL pilots who just canned practically their entire representation need a lesson on the corruptibility of unions. We know what a bad union looks like & this isn’t it.

The problem is as much as we complain about the social media generation, look how many grown @$$ men are already out there “solving” a problem whose veracity they haven’t even confirmed beyond an anonymous internet posting.want to be privy to more of this stuff? Volunteer with the union & find out how problems actually get solved. Or dox some kid off a rumor on a b!+ch board & clear a seniority space for the rest of us, I guess.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

All very questionable. Except this part: Would the FAA even take a hearsay call?

Yes. Yes they would. And initiate enforcement action too.

Originally Posted by ImSoSuss

Or maybe this whole CRT "protected status" thing is a bunch of malarkey and for the most part...... wait for it...... people actually put in hard work and earned the positions they are in. *gasp* I know, very controversial take for the new generation. Find your safespace if needed.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

The comminique said to stop talking about it, it didn't say it didn't happen. It did say the issue was being addressed, which I'm sure it is.

I also assume there's more to the story.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

All very questionable. Except this part: Would the FAA even take a hearsay call?

Yes. Yes they would. And initiate enforcement action too.

Originally Posted by JediCheese

Weirdest investigation I heard of was a passenger called the FAA and said the plane departed with only one pilot on the flight deck. Full blown investigation with interviews with the flight crew and FA (might have also pulled ATC tapes and talked to push crew and gate agents).

Originally Posted by RJSAviator76

Especially on boards and social media....

"Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."

- Mike Tyson

Originally Posted by 170Till5

I think everyone here would gladly say it to her face that she screwed up.

she undermined all the work our unions have done over the decades to create a process for pilot errors to go through, penalty free and to create a safe space for people to admit their errors and learn from it. She jeopardized 2 pilot careers having the FAA investigate vs going through the union/company. She made her bed, she can lay in it.

if you agree with her actions, go talk to your union reps about it and see what they say

Originally Posted by RJSAviator76

There's gotta be way more to the story. I just don't see an airline pilot making this call because of obvious reasons - an error occurred, she chimed in as she observed it (don't we all tell our jumpseaters to tell us if they see us screwing something up?), the crew addressed it, end of story.

I do see maybe some embellishment when talking to her Karen husband who then takes it to the next level.




Absolutely! That's why the line exists.

Originally Posted by CBreezy

Don't be drama. No one's career is jeopardized based on an anonymous tip, especially if it's as much of a non issue as that. Pilots at other airlines have flown go-arounds at 200 agl for 3 miles before realizing it or even negligently taxied into the tug that pushed them back and almost the tug crew without any career impact.

And you should absolutely approach that individual in the airport, tough guy. Especially considering every single detail is a rumor but you seem to have all the facts.

Originally Posted by CBreezy

Don't be drama. No one's career is jeopardized based on an anonymous tip, especially if it's as much of a non issue as that. Pilots at other airlines have flown go-arounds at 200 agl for 3 miles before realizing it or even negligently taxied into the tug that pushed them back and almost the tug crew without any career impact.

And you should absolutely approach that individual in the airport, tough guy. Especially considering every single detail is a rumor but you seem to have all the facts.