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Old 05-10-2024, 05:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
no other profession immediately starts bullying and doxxing quite like we do.

All other professions would start an ethics or malpractice investigation on the accused and work on a remedy once it was complete…not us!! We bring out the mob and pitchforks and want to hang our own before any investigation or facts are known.
Gossip, rumors, and mob mentality are an unfortunate aspect of the human condition as a whole, and not unique to the airline piloting profession. Saying "no other profession starts bullying and doxxing quite like we do" is a pretty ignorant thing to say, both as a generalization of the piloting profession, and also considering its ignorance to the fact that a large number of humans have the tendency to jump to conclusions or retaliate prematurely no matter what industry they work in. Construction, law, medicine, business...once a rumor about someone snitching gets out, good luck keeping the lid on that can of worms. And I'm sure everyone in each industry thinks their industry is the worst, too
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Old 05-10-2024, 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FyrePilot
She definitely doesn’t deserve getting a check for this but paying out the lawsuit now and getting her out of flight deck is the best thing.

If she or her husband runs to the FAA causing an investigation for every small mistake or imperfection that happens imagine how many careers derailed along with expensive FAA inquiries will happen over the next 30 years. Although she will probably get the record for most bid avoid person ever.

Personally I don’t take the “get upset” route. Take the get even route. Request to have the FAA in her flight deck and simulator for every time she flies to note every thing done absolutely not perfect. Start investigations for each thing- result is that she will be terminated without a lawsuit- because no one flies perfect every time- I know when I have the absolute perfect flight- it’s time to retire.
This is a charming summation of an hilarious conversation. Pay out a lawsuit that exists only in theory over an event we don’t know the details of. Oh, and we respond by sending the FAA to evaluate all her flights because we want them to help us get her fired which is totally something we can do.
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Old 05-10-2024, 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
This is a charming summation of an hilarious conversation. Pay out a lawsuit that exists only in theory over an event we don’t know the details of. Oh, and we respond by sending the FAA to evaluate all her flights because we want them to help us get her fired which is totally something we can do.
this is an Internet forum pilots get to gossip on that maybe 2% take seriously - All we have is speculation, rumor, and theory. So don’t take that away

It’s a step below Facebook with the mostly anonymity, but the bright side is there are no filtered pictures presenting everyone as better than they really are.
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Old 05-10-2024, 06:06 AM
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I wouldn't be comfortable flying a trip with someone knowing they pulled a stunt like this. Can you imagine your debrief items making it into a instagram feed or worse the "hotline". Zero respect or trust.
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Old 05-10-2024, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueScholar
So the general consensus here is to never fill out an ASAP report lest you "narc" on a crewmember to the "feds"? That's what we're saying here? And any new hire who has the gall to submit a safety report (albiet in a less ideal forum) about a legimitate safety of flight issue which could have resulted in a smoking hole in the ground surrounded by the vaporized body parts of 160 passengers is permanent ostracization from their colleagues? Not mentoring, not being debriefed and sent on their way, but being mocked behind their back and an organied effort to be blackballed from the jump seat at multiple airlines???

Somebody make this make sense to me!
It's hard through all of your hyperbole 😂
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Old 05-10-2024, 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
You don't know any pilots with psycho spouses? Lucky you...

You tell me if this makes any sense to you:

Crew is distracted by looking for traffic and they allow the aircraft to get a little slow with no aural warnings. The jumpseater speaks up and points it out to the crew. Crew immediately addresses it and thanks the jumpseater. The rest of the flight being uneventful.

In what and whose world does it make sense to call the FAA if you're a pilot? What are you gonna say? "Yeah hi... I was the jumpseater and I pointed out an airspeed deviation to thew crew that was distracted by looking out for traffic." "OK ma'am, so what happened?" "They sped up and landed the plane with no further issues."

Again, what pilot would actually call the FAA and report that? That's the part I'm struggling to understand because it literally makes no sense. I could see a Karen manbun spouse who traveled on that plane making that call off the casual conversation with her... not a working airline pilot.

That's why when Casey apparently addressed this to the upgrade class and said it was her husband who was also traveling on that plane that called the FAA after she mentioned what happened to him. That actually made sense.
Makes zero sense to me. Was the husband a pilot? Would the FAA even take a hearsay call? Would the husband make that call without asking her? If they were on the flight together I assume they exited together? Zero conversation on making a call?

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Old 05-10-2024, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by trip
I wouldn't be comfortable flying a trip with someone knowing they pulled a stunt like this. Can you imagine your debrief items making it into a instagram feed or worse the "hotline". Zero respect or trust.
Callouts and checklists.....that's all I would say to her.
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Old 05-10-2024, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyPurdue
I think she absolutely deserves a big payday. No one deserves to be bullied. Yeah, she (or someone) made an error in judgement, but no other profession immediately starts bullying and doxxing quite like we do.

All other professions would start an ethics or malpractice investigation on the accused and work on a remedy once it was complete…not us!! We bring out the mob and pitchforks and want to hang our own before any investigation or facts are known. I hope any of you bullying or harassing this pilot learn an (expensive) lesson and stop being so bitter and mean all the time.
Especially on boards and social media....

"Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."

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Old 05-10-2024, 06:43 AM
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This thread is so indicative of mid-2020s public discourse on social media....

Yeah we've all heard the story, yes it is egregious and no you don't go direct to the feds especially for something dumb like this...but does the story make any sense as initially presented? No, no it doesn't. Instead of that raising some red flags, some folks on all sides have torn an ACL making knee-jerk reactions.

"If you see something, say something...to us. Not the Company or FAA."

Leave the memes, take the echo chamber.
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Old 05-10-2024, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ccm303
We have dumbasses here at American too. I just found out that we recently canned an FO for taking a selfie and posting it to instagram during taxi with a Fed on the jump seat. Go figure. No need for the whole group to pay.
Was someone really that stupid?
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