Airbus Order Theory
05-14-2024, 01:40 PM
#51
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Food for thought, the 767s have another 6ish years left of life. They've been having tons of problems for several years now, showing their age. European outstations hate them from a reliability standpoint. I know they print money since we own them and carry the right blends of seat classes, but they'll have to go eventually. The A330neo is a great replacement for the 767. It'll hit all the places in Europe that the 767 does and seat the same kind of cabins.
The 350 has about the same capabilities (give or take) as the 787 which Boeing can't seem to produce right now.
While I don't see us taking A350s to duplicate the 787 we're committed to, I can see United buying a bunch more 321neos and adding the A330NEO to the mix starting in 2028ish to start replacing the 767
Just my $0.02
The 350 has about the same capabilities (give or take) as the 787 which Boeing can't seem to produce right now.
While I don't see us taking A350s to duplicate the 787 we're committed to, I can see United buying a bunch more 321neos and adding the A330NEO to the mix starting in 2028ish to start replacing the 767
Just my $0.02
The A330neo has a similar seating capacity to the 787 and is heavier than the 787…. The A330 is not the perfect 767 replacement and quite frankly it doesn’t not make business/financial sense from the company perspective to add A330neos that adds an additional category.
If you going to replace the 767 with a heavier and higher seat capacity, the 787 makes more sense vs the A330neo….
So A330neos coming can be filed under the wishful thinking filing cabinet…
05-14-2024, 01:43 PM
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We heard the same thing about getting A-321s just 2 years ago, and now we have 170 of them on order.
Also the A330 and A350 are common type ratings, just like 757-767 so we could get both planes and fly them with a single group of pilots, making it one fleet. It makes even more sense to get both if we are going to get A-350s because now we have a comparable 767 replacement.
Also the A330 and A350 are common type ratings, just like 757-767 so we could get both planes and fly them with a single group of pilots, making it one fleet. It makes even more sense to get both if we are going to get A-350s because now we have a comparable 767 replacement.
05-14-2024, 02:08 PM
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I can think of zero times in the history of United that it has tied any fleet announcement to a new hire class. There is no reason to. Any new announcement will be after the FAA gets done United.
05-14-2024, 02:10 PM
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The A330neo has a similar seating capacity to the 787 and is heavier than the 787…. The A330 is not the perfect 767 replacement and quite frankly it doesn’t not make business/financial sense from the company perspective to add A330neos that adds an additional category.
If you going to replace the 767 with a heavier and higher seat capacity, the 787 makes more sense vs the A330neo….
So A330neos coming can be filed under the wishful thinking filing cabinet…
If you going to replace the 767 with a heavier and higher seat capacity, the 787 makes more sense vs the A330neo….
So A330neos coming can be filed under the wishful thinking filing cabinet…
05-14-2024, 05:29 PM
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We heard the same thing about getting A-321s just 2 years ago, and now we have 170 of them on order.
Also the A330 and A350 are common type ratings, just like 757-767 so we could get both planes and fly them with a single group of pilots, making it one fleet. It makes even more sense to get both if we are going to get A-350s because now we have a comparable 767 replacement.
Also the A330 and A350 are common type ratings, just like 757-767 so we could get both planes and fly them with a single group of pilots, making it one fleet. It makes even more sense to get both if we are going to get A-350s because now we have a comparable 767 replacement.
05-15-2024, 05:16 AM
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Not necessarily, United can announce new orders even with the FAA doing its audit.... Taking new airframes and putting them on the opspecs, that's a different matter....
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