Airbus Order Theory
05-12-2024, 06:11 PM
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Can't help but wonder given the pi$$-poor regulating of Boeing they've been doing why they would worry about something that MIGHT happen in the event of a statistically unlikely event. I mean door plugs are pressurized on damn near every flight. Failing to bolt them in place makes every flight a potential disaster. How often are you going to have a crash that would be otherwise survivable but for the loss of integrity of an integral aft fuselage fuel tank?
Boeing went to **** the day of the merger, it just took this long for the MBA/Wall st crowd to finally over shadow the really good engineers and assembly workers that (used to) work there.
05-14-2024, 09:05 AM
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Food for thought, the 767s have another 6ish years left of life. They've been having tons of problems for several years now, showing their age. European outstations hate them from a reliability standpoint. I know they print money since we own them and carry the right blends of seat classes, but they'll have to go eventually. The A330neo is a great replacement for the 767. It'll hit all the places in Europe that the 767 does and seat the same kind of cabins.
The 350 has about the same capabilities (give or take) as the 787 which Boeing can't seem to produce right now.
While I don't see us taking A350s to duplicate the 787 we're committed to, I can see United buying a bunch more 321neos and adding the A330NEO to the mix starting in 2028ish to start replacing the 767
Just my $0.02
The 350 has about the same capabilities (give or take) as the 787 which Boeing can't seem to produce right now.
While I don't see us taking A350s to duplicate the 787 we're committed to, I can see United buying a bunch more 321neos and adding the A330NEO to the mix starting in 2028ish to start replacing the 767
Just my $0.02
05-14-2024, 11:07 AM
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Food for thought, the 767s have another 6ish years left of life. They've been having tons of problems for several years now, showing their age. European outstations hate them from a reliability standpoint. I know they print money since we own them and carry the right blends of seat classes, but they'll have to go eventually. The A330neo is a great replacement for the 767. It'll hit all the places in Europe that the 767 does and seat the same kind of cabins.
The 350 has about the same capabilities (give or take) as the 787 which Boeing can't seem to produce right now.
While I don't see us taking A350s to duplicate the 787 we're committed to, I can see United buying a bunch more 321neos and adding the A330NEO to the mix starting in 2028ish to start replacing the 767
Just my $0.02
The 350 has about the same capabilities (give or take) as the 787 which Boeing can't seem to produce right now.
While I don't see us taking A350s to duplicate the 787 we're committed to, I can see United buying a bunch more 321neos and adding the A330NEO to the mix starting in 2028ish to start replacing the 767
Just my $0.02
Would honestly be shocked to not see a massive A-350 order soon. The A-330 is also a great replacement for the 767s.
Kirby is not going to hope that Boeing gets their act together. They have screwed up the Max-10 order and are significantly late on the 787s.
United already has 170 A-321s coming and its easy to believe there are another 200-250 being negotiated with a WB order as well. Airbus even said publicly they are trying to get orders from other airlines to facilitate a large order from United.
It gets announced in July right before United starts new hire classes. My bet is that the announcement is July 22nd, the day before new hire classes start up on the 23rd.
05-14-2024, 11:37 AM
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Food for thought, the 767s have another 6ish years left of life. They've been having tons of problems for several years now, showing their age. European outstations hate them from a reliability standpoint. I know they print money since we own them and carry the right blends of seat classes, but they'll have to go eventually. The A330neo is a great replacement for the 767. It'll hit all the places in Europe that the 767 does and seat the same kind of cabins.
The 350 has about the same capabilities (give or take) as the 787 which Boeing can't seem to produce right now.
While I don't see us taking A350s to duplicate the 787 we're committed to, I can see United buying a bunch more 321neos and adding the A330NEO to the mix starting in 2028ish to start replacing the 767
Just my $0.02
The 350 has about the same capabilities (give or take) as the 787 which Boeing can't seem to produce right now.
While I don't see us taking A350s to duplicate the 787 we're committed to, I can see United buying a bunch more 321neos and adding the A330NEO to the mix starting in 2028ish to start replacing the 767
Just my $0.02
05-14-2024, 12:32 PM
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Also the A330 and A350 are common type ratings, just like 757-767 so we could get both planes and fly them with a single group of pilots, making it one fleet. It makes even more sense to get both if we are going to get A-350s because now we have a comparable 767 replacement.
05-14-2024, 12:34 PM
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We heard the same thing about getting A-321s just 2 years ago, and now we have 170 of them on order.
Also the A330 and A350 are common type ratings, just like 757-767 so we could get both planes and fly them with a single group of pilots, making it one fleet. It makes even more sense to get both if we are going to get A-350s because now we have a comparable 767 replacement.
Also the A330 and A350 are common type ratings, just like 757-767 so we could get both planes and fly them with a single group of pilots, making it one fleet. It makes even more sense to get both if we are going to get A-350s because now we have a comparable 767 replacement.
05-14-2024, 01:02 PM
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The A-350 holds over 50 more passengers than the 787 does. Its going to be the 777 replacement. Kirby is a numbers guy and he's not going to replace 777s that have 364 seats with 787-10s that only hold 318 people.
Would honestly be shocked to not see a massive A-350 order soon. The A-330 is also a great replacement for the 767s.
Kirby is not going to hope that Boeing gets their act together. They have screwed up the Max-10 order and are significantly late on the 787s.
United already has 170 A-321s coming and its easy to believe there are another 200-250 being negotiated with a WB order as well. Airbus even said publicly they are trying to get orders from other airlines to facilitate a large order from United.
It gets announced in July right before United starts new hire classes. My bet is that the announcement is July 22nd, the day before new hire classes start up on the 23rd.
Would honestly be shocked to not see a massive A-350 order soon. The A-330 is also a great replacement for the 767s.
Kirby is not going to hope that Boeing gets their act together. They have screwed up the Max-10 order and are significantly late on the 787s.
United already has 170 A-321s coming and its easy to believe there are another 200-250 being negotiated with a WB order as well. Airbus even said publicly they are trying to get orders from other airlines to facilitate a large order from United.
It gets announced in July right before United starts new hire classes. My bet is that the announcement is July 22nd, the day before new hire classes start up on the 23rd.
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