60av8tor

It depends. What are you trying to glean from it?

MasterOfPuppets

not really unless you find it interesting. If you are near the bottom for the first couple days chances are you won’t keep the bid. However that means you are very close. Everytime I was bumped off from a snapshot I usually held the seat on the next bid with openings in that seat. If you are on the snapshot after the first week you are probably going to get the award.

Turbosina

Ah gotcha, yes that makes perfect sense...

Hedley

When the the 787's do eventually replace the 767 fleet, I'd expect the seniority of that flying to go up. We will be parking a lower paid aircraft with one that pays much more. I'd imagine that there are many people who don't want to fly long haul while sleeping in a Polaris seat for only $14/hour more than a 737, but would probably be willing to bid a comfortable plane with an actual bunk when the difference is $87/hr.

MasterOfPuppets

I agree completely. But that doesn’t stop retirements from happening

Turbosina

Like most people, I'm just trying to figure out my chances of transferring into another base, and/or upgrading into that base. (I have my base trade request in, and there is one matching trade request on the most recent trade request snapshot. But it looks like if I traded, I'd be the most junior guy in BES, and I believe that isn't allowed, correct? I'm not sure if that aspect of UPA23 has been implemented yet.)

I guess the tricky thing with the snapshot is that it has no way of predicting how many people will successfully bid into a new BES, thereby freeing up their spot for someone else who wants it. So for example, in this current bid, there are no NBCA vacancies listed. There are only WBCA vacancies. However, it stands to reason that at least some of those WBCA spots will go to NBCAs who bid it, thereby freeing up NBCA slots and allowing people (who aren't currently NBCAs) to hold those slots. But there's no way to know that until the bid closes.

The other thing that confuses the heck out of me is, the bid notice indicates that there are a lot of NBCA slots being freed up because they were initially awarded to new hires who decided not to keep their CA awards. Yet if you look at the snapshots, the number of NBCA slots listed is far fewer than the number of slots mentioned as being available. Totally puzzled. Is the answer simply that Manpower Planning has the *ability* to award up to XX NBCA slots that were released by new hires, but due to company needs, has decided to actually award fewer slots?

MasterOfPuppets

those spots are not freed up they are available. The pilots you see listed are bidding for the available slots. if it says 10 avail and 5 are posted then only 5 pilots have a valid bid in. Therefore there are still 5 pilots who don’t want there CA bid still in the position. Those CAs have elected to forego there slot IF there are any takers they weren’t “let out” from the position.

i didn’t explain that super well…..but I hope you get the idea.

the filling of unwanted new hire CA positions is outside the min/max bulletin.

VacancyBid

The snapshots are basically "eh have the computer spit something out"

The actual bid goes through a lot more manual processing and the company has the ability to tinker with it in a number of ways. 90% of those ways give more mobility than the snapshot might suggest.

Bid what you want, you'll get it eventually. Even when you do get it, there's always some uncertainty about when it activates.

Flyby1206

What's the DOH for WB CA in EWR?

UALinIAH

sCAL Sept '05 (sUAL 4/98) on yesterday's snapshot on the 777. 787 was a little senior to that in EWR.