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Old 06-18-2024, 05:34 PM
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I decided I'll be leaving DAL (March hire) for UAL. I have a July 23rd class date. Does anyone know if that is the first class following the onboarding pause? Anyone heard anything about expectations for training moving quickly? I had a 4 week wait at DAL between indoc and sims, I heard UAL had at least that a few months ago, but I imagine the first couple of classes will likely roll through without delays, but interested to hear if anyone has insider knowledge. TIA
7/23 is the first class since the pause. There is no extended wait like that at UA between Indoc and fleet training. For the last few months folks have generally had 5-10 days on average.
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Old 06-18-2024, 09:20 PM
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7/23 is the first class since the pause. There is no extended wait like that at UA between Indoc and fleet training. For the last few months folks have generally had 5-10 days on average.
I was hired a few months ago and I had 1.5 weeks off until sims. 0 delays for me.
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You guys realize that you'll have 10,000 30 year olds senior to you for the rest of your lives, right?
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Old 06-19-2024, 12:48 AM
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You guys realize that you'll have 10,000 30 year olds senior to you for the rest of your lives, right?
10,000 30 year olds? You wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning?

A 30 year old hired today would retire right around #1000 on the list. Crystal ball is always hazy, but sounds like a shot at a great career to me.
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You guys realize that you'll have 10,000 30 year olds senior to you for the rest of your lives, right?
Sounds like you’re trying to deter people from coming over. In another one of your posts, you said to shut up and deal with it and just get hotels (with regards to commuting). Not sure what you’re trying to accomplish here
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Old 06-19-2024, 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by FloridaJim
I decided I'll be leaving DAL (March hire) for UAL. I have a July 23rd class date. Does anyone know if that is the first class following the onboarding pause? Anyone heard anything about expectations for training moving quickly? I had a 4 week wait at DAL between indoc and sims, I heard UAL had at least that a few months ago, but I imagine the first couple of classes will likely roll through without delays, but interested to hear if anyone has insider knowledge. TIA
just curious why you're leaving DAL for UAL? Congrats on the class date! Also when did you receive your CJO?
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Old 06-19-2024, 09:11 AM
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just curious why you're leaving DAL for UAL? Congrats on the class date! Also when did you receive your CJO?
Curious too! Just left UA for DL recently, was living in IAH be moved to ATL when I got the news. Moving for base reasons or something else?
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Originally Posted by apcguy320
You guys realize that you'll have 10,000 30 year olds senior to you for the rest of your lives, right?
This is not even close. Also anyone hired today can still be a Captain inside a year which you can't do at any major carrier.

I've never understood the fixation on "absolute seniority number" meaning someone won't leave LCC X because their number is 4,200 and they don't want to "give up seniority" to be number 17,500 at Major X.

United still has 800 aircraft on order with 150 of those being 787s. Also there is 165 A-321s coming which are mostly growth aircraft and all the MAX 8 and 9 planes are mostly growth. We are the growth airline, and other airlines are either stagnant or shrinking and deferring orders and furloughing pilots.

To eash his own, but with retirements ramping up to almost 800 be 2028 there is going to be a ton of movement for the next decade, as the 787s and other planes will still be being delivered by 2034.
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Old 06-19-2024, 05:41 PM
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I interviewed on Jan 18th.

I was torn about leaving DAL. There are lots of pros and cons, but the biggest factor for me is that I prefer UAL's bases. I live in the greater LAX area right now, so both are drivable, but I plan to leave these taxes and move to a more family-friendly area in the future. I enjoy wide-body international flying, and despite various opinions about growth plans and business directions, I expect quicker seniority movement at UAL. UAL also seems much more dedicated to international flying.

I try not to factor this in too much since it might just be bad luck, and I know there are bad apples at all airlines (maybe air lines fits better here) and businesses. However, I've met a surprisingly high number of people at Delta with significant ego problems, and getting away from that makes the idea of extending first-year pay much more tolerable for me.

Can anyone who has been to Denver for initial training recently speak to parking options? I've heard that after indoc, hotels are downtown Denver. Is parking included with the hotel reservations? I plan to stick around on off days and would love the ability to explore CO.
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Old 06-19-2024, 08:55 PM
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Can anyone who has been to Denver for initial training recently speak to parking options? I've heard that after indoc, hotels are downtown Denver. Is parking included with the hotel reservations? I plan to stick around on off days and would love the ability to explore CO.
While parking isn't fully included with the long term training hotel, you get a crazy low rate-- I think it's $100/month for parking. Just be aware -- the downtown training hotel is surrounded by the same street issues as many American cities, so I would not recommend parking an expensive car in that area. Bring a beater and you'll be fine. Welcome aboard!!
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