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Old 07-14-2024, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 744ButtonPusher


and seriously.., South Korea? Maybe north
Or maybe South Korea. I remember a time not all that long ago where if the ROK Air Force had a maintenance mishap the rebuttable presumption was crew chief willful sabotage rather than innocent until proven guilty.
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Old 07-14-2024, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 744ButtonPusher
You mean like willful violation of a federal regulation.

Don’t need damage or a victim to be charged with breaking the law.
You had it right the first time, a regulation not a law. Speaking of regulations I know noone hear has ever used a PED inflight or violated sterile cockpit in their lives. Of course not.
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Old 07-14-2024, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jerryleber
You had it right the first time, a regulation not a law. Speaking of regulations I know noone hear has ever used a PED inflight or violated sterile cockpit in their lives. Of course not.
maybe we have, maybe we haven’t. But none of us has video taped ourselves doing it.
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Old 07-14-2024, 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Broncofan
But none of us has video taped ourselves doing it.
Extremely bad judgement, no doubt. Just pointing out how high some folks' horses seem to be.
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Old 07-14-2024, 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 744ButtonPusher
if you don’t already know, you probably don’t need to know.
WHY such secrecy there? Care to explain why we don't have a right to know?

That's like saying that the public has no right to know what fine or prison sentence someone recieves when convicted of a crime. Thats 3rd world crap that has no place here.
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Old 07-14-2024, 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy
What was the resolution to this misadventure?
I heard from a captain that the entire FA crew was fired. Apparently, the person filming was not the CA but a FA who kind of forced the situation into the cockpit while the CA was in the restroom. It surprised the FO apparently as he was unfamiliar with the FOM?

Anyways, they are both still on the MSL and corroborated the story. And truthfully, if this is the truth, I’m much more relieved that this is what really happened.
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Old 07-14-2024, 09:05 PM
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For God’s sake let ALPA represent the pilots involved. We should keep our mouths shut. If anything motivates you it’s the money we pay for such representation.

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Old 07-15-2024, 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Bahamasflyer
WHY such secrecy there? Care to explain why we don't have a right to know?

That's like saying that the public has no right to know what fine or prison sentence someone recieves when convicted of a crime. Thats 3rd world crap that has no place here.
Because it's an ongoing safety investigation, why is that so hard to comprehend? Here's a better question, why do you think you deserve to know the outcome? Have you ever seen that listed in any other investigation you've ever seen? Can we get a list all all your mistakes and screwups and send that out to the rest of the world?
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Old 07-15-2024, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by IFartInYourSeat
I heard from a captain that the entire FA crew was fired. Apparently, the person filming was not the CA but a FA who kind of forced the situation into the cockpit while the CA was in the restroom. It surprised the FO apparently as he was unfamiliar with the FOM?

Anyways, they are both still on the MSL and corroborated the story. And truthfully, if this is the truth, I’m much more relieved that this is what really happened.
That seems pretty far fetched, that an FA took it upon herself to bring a pax into the flight deck and seat him in an unoccupied control station. If true, the FO should be fired for letting it happen. FOM or not, he was in command if the CA was in the lav.
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Old 07-15-2024, 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
That seems pretty far fetched, that an FA took it upon herself to bring a pax into the flight deck and seat him in an unoccupied control station. If true, the FO should be fired for letting it happen. FOM or not, he was in command if the CA was in the lav.

I don’t disagree. What I would like to point out, as I do to all new F/O’s is that the FOM is written to protect the company, not the pilot. They give us virtually ZERO FOM training/classroom time other than some basic dispatch regs. The rest is self study, and it’s a huge volume of info that we are responsible for. Back in the day, we had actual instructors who spent hours in a classroom ensuring FOM basic understanding. Now, due to to cost considerations, FOM training is non existent. Bottom line, they’ll throw you under the bus in a heartbeat for not having encyclopedic knowledge of the FOM, but offer next to nothing in the way of real training. I feel for this new FO, but that’s the reality.
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