UNITED???? Passenger in CAPT seat in FLIGHT?
04-22-2024, 10:59 AM
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A Pan-Am 747 Captain let an F/A fly while sitting on his lap, then got an altitude deviation of several hundred feet.
The F/O reported it, the Capt got fired, then got his job back. (If memory serves me right)
Sometime later I worked with the Capt in the Middle East, and later again I was in class with the
F/O at a US airline.
Filming the violation and going online seems even more stupid, wow..
The F/O reported it, the Capt got fired, then got his job back. (If memory serves me right)
Sometime later I worked with the Capt in the Middle East, and later again I was in class with the
F/O at a US airline.
Filming the violation and going online seems even more stupid, wow..
04-22-2024, 11:02 AM
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Strenuously object of course.
04-22-2024, 11:07 AM
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I hope for the FOs sake he objected during the flight and reported it after landing (FSAP?) and that is how the company found out. If that is the case, he will be ok. If not, he is in a great deal of trouble and may not keep his job. I think the FAA will look at not reporting it (if he did not) as trying to cover it up.
04-22-2024, 11:11 AM
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04-22-2024, 11:14 AM
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I hope for the FOs sake he objected during the flight and reported it after landing (FSAP?) and that is how the company found out. If that is the case, he will be ok. If not, he is in a great deal of trouble and may not keep his job. I think the FAA will look at not reporting it (if he did not) as trying to cover it up.
But yes, I hope he objected. His body language shows discomfort and most of us can pick up pretty quick when the other crewmemember is uncomfortable.
04-22-2024, 12:53 PM
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Possibly for the CA, but NOT for the FO as long as he voiced his objections.
He looked wicked uncomfortable in the vid with everything going on. I mean seriously.....after verbally objecting, tell me WTF is he suppose to do past that???
Doing anything more (like trying to physically stop the situation) would have been even LESS safe.
He looked wicked uncomfortable in the vid with everything going on. I mean seriously.....after verbally objecting, tell me WTF is he suppose to do past that???
Doing anything more (like trying to physically stop the situation) would have been even LESS safe.
Does the passenger look like the FO told him to get the F off the flight deck, or I know your team spent thousands on this charter but you really can’t be up here the CA is going to get us both in trouble?
No one is just going to sit there and enjoy themselves if the FO said fing leave but CA said they can stay because they have final authority.
The CA can tell the FO **** we’re doing this, but the FO can still be stern directly to the passenger and ruin the moment.
No one is just going to sit there and enjoy themselves if the FO said fing leave but CA said they can stay because they have final authority.
The CA can tell the FO **** we’re doing this, but the FO can still be stern directly to the passenger and ruin the moment.
It was explained EXACTLY what the FO should have done here:
UNITED???? Passenger in CAPT seat in FLIGHT?
04-22-2024, 01:02 PM
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Bingo!
It was explained EXACTLY what the FO should have done here:
UNITED???? Passenger in CAPT seat in FLIGHT?
It was explained EXACTLY what the FO should have done here:
UNITED???? Passenger in CAPT seat in FLIGHT?
Sad part about the whole thing is the CA likely encouraged it and the passenger had to be encouraged to enter the flight deck. He is definitely old enough to remember 9/11.
She probably has done it so many times in the past forgot it was a big deal to have home up there. Which wasn’t a big deal if you don’t record it.
04-22-2024, 01:26 PM
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Sad part about the whole thing is the CA likely encouraged it and the passenger had to be encouraged to enter the flight deck. He is definitely old enough to remember 9/11.
She probably has done it so many times in the past forgot it was a big deal to have home up there. Which wasn’t a big deal if you don’t record it.
She probably has done it so many times in the past forgot it was a big deal to have home up there. Which wasn’t a big deal if you don’t record it.
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