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04-19-2024, 10:31 AM

#141

trip

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Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy

Of course the risk is low...becuase allowing pax to sit in a control seat is illegal and essentially (until now) never happens.

Anyone rember Aeroflot 593? If the guy sitting in the UAL seat the other day had put a bit more pressure on the yoke, things could have gotten out of hand very quickly.

It also happened on a USAF tanker, out of Ohio I think. One of the pilots had his wife in the left seat, pitch trim had been input full nose down until the autopilot disconnected, aircraft pitched over rapidly nose down and never recovered.

04-19-2024, 10:43 AM

#142

rickair7777

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Originally Posted by trip

Official report on that was unrelated trim malfunction, not wife-induced trim. But you never know, IIRC the spouses were in fact authorized to be there by an AF QOL program so AF was ultimately responsible either way.

04-19-2024, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Sky Dog

I wonder what she would say if she knew that flight attendants sit in the pilot seat every time one of the pilots has to pee.

Not on my airframe....

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Originally Posted by Qazwsx1

At Expressjet the cockpit was so small the FA would have to sit in our seat when we would go use the bathroom in flight...is that bad? Is that any different then what's on video? When I was an intern with JS privileges the captain on a 777 let me sit in his seat and took a pic on a pax flight between hubs. Is that any different then an FA sitting at the controls when a pilot is in the LAV?

Funny you mention XJT, there's a certain picture on the interwebs of a yougn lady wearing nothing but tight orange pants in the right seat of a 145. The rumor I heard is that it was a ferry flight with a company FA riding along, and none of them were working for XJT long after that.

And that's all I have to add to that, except by saying there's no effing way any Capt is going to do this on any flight I'm flying, Charter or not.

04-19-2024, 10:46 AM

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170Till5

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Originally Posted by dera

Airbus 310 is Russian design? Man...

Comparing this to Drake in a plane he owns is a little different. You cant fly a charter flight as Part 91. I doubt that coach owns that plane.

my bad, not a Russian plane. But the flight control design on that plane contributed to the crash and pilots being slow to react. Poor design

04-19-2024, 10:52 AM

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170Till5

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Originally Posted by dera

Airbus 310 is Russian design? Man...

Comparing this to Drake in a plane he owns is a little different. You cant fly a charter flight as Part 91. I doubt that coach owns that plane.

it’s owned and managed CargoJet, a 121 Canadian air carrier (at least it was), same with the Patriots 767’s except operated by Omni

most airlines allow up to up to 9-14 crew members on ferry flights since they’re part 91 and don’t have to have the door closed and locked from what I’ve seen.

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04-19-2024, 11:21 AM

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BlueSkies

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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets

most of them are from non UAL pilots…..so there is that…….

Not at UAL either, but was it actually the CA filming?! I just can't believe this...and I really hope the FO said something a bunch of times when the camera wasn't rolling.

04-19-2024, 11:28 AM

#147

John Carr

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Originally Posted by TallFlyer

Funny you mention XJT, there's a certain picture on the interwebs of a yougn lady wearing nothing but tight orange pants in the right seat of a 145. The rumor I heard is that it was a ferry flight

Correct

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Originally Posted by TallFlyer

with a company FA riding along

Correct, "company" meaning she was the one on the crew, doing the repo after a weather CX

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Originally Posted by TallFlyer

and none of them were working for XJT long after that.

Not really......

FA was one of those wanna be instagram model types.

Quit the company, waited a while, then uploaded the pics to "theChive".

Pilots stayed employed. Pretty sure I saw the CA walking around here a while back, but I could be wrong.

04-19-2024, 12:01 PM

#148

Ghost 7X7

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Originally Posted by jerryleber

Do you work for Boeing?

At United we have this union called ALPA and even our Chief Pilots are members so your whole post is just silly virtue signaling.

Thanks for your 2 cents worth.

I do. And here we have SPEEA and (in my case) SETP as well. We tend to focus on compliance 100% of the time. Not that management listens to us a lot, as recent events have demonstrated.

You're welcome. Anytime I can freely express my opinion on the importance of following the rules over union wagon circling.

04-19-2024, 12:02 PM

#149

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https://stocks.apple.com/AcR_ROjkJTTm43ieri9C_eA

United under fire after pilots let member of baseball team sit in cockpit

"We’re deeply disturbed by what we see in that video," United Airlines said in a statement.

04-19-2024, 12:22 PM

#150

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As a captain I hope if I ever pull something as stupid as this my FO displays more backbone. Going along to get along only works so far. United pioneered CRM principles that are industry standard today, which makes this worse. WTF, United?