United planeides off runway at Bush Airport
03-12-2024, 05:34 AM
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Why do people always jump to the extreme. If this story is true it is a statistical anomole sir/mam. It is just an anecdote. Generally speaking (that is how the world works) 450 hour pilots suck compared to 15000 hour pilots. There is no substitute for experience. We should extend you some grace as well I suppose. When I was 20 something I used to say really stupid sh1t like this too. "Experience is wasted on the youth". Truer words have never been spoken.
03-12-2024, 05:37 AM
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Why do people always jump to the extreme. If this story is true it is a statistical anomole sir/mam. It is just an anecdote. Generally speaking (that is how the world works) 450 hour pilots suck compared to 15000 hour pilots. There is no substitute for experience. We should extend you some grace as well I suppose. When I was 20 something I used to say really stupid sh1t like this too. "Experience is wasted on the youth". Truer words have never been spoken.
Senior pilots have a tendency to consistently display complacency (from my experience, of course). That said, give me a senior guy all day every day when it comes to abnormal or hairy situations.
03-12-2024, 05:50 AM
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Aren't we one of the only(if not THE only) airlines that actually impose a 1 year upgrade requirement? It’s a self-imposed limitation. The FAA has nothing other than the 1000 qualifying hours and ATP. Delta had 4 month upgrades not too long ago. Why is everyone so hung up on this?
03-12-2024, 05:59 AM
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Aren't we one of the only(if not THE only) airlines that actually impose a 1 year upgrade requirement? It’s a self-imposed limitation. The FAA has nothing other than the 1000 qualifying hours and ATP. Delta had 4 month upgrades not too long ago. Why is everyone so hung up on this?
Airline requirements aside, it's only a reality at United and Delta and experience-related issues seem to have become a thing.
03-12-2024, 06:01 AM
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WGAF? Well when statistics show experience matters, time in type matters, has the crew flown together before, etc, etc. having the answers to those questions will be looked at by the investigators.
03-12-2024, 08:06 AM
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This will have you being arrested soon. To speak against DEI is not an intelligent move. Heck, the investigators are probably DEI themselves.
03-12-2024, 08:14 AM
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03-12-2024, 10:09 AM
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Why do people always jump to the extreme. If this story is true it is a statistical anomole sir/mam. It is just an anecdote. Generally speaking (that is how the world works) 450 hour pilots suck compared to 15000 hour pilots. There is no substitute for experience. We should extend you some grace as well I suppose. When I was 20 something I used to say really stupid sh1t like this too. "Experience is wasted on the youth". Truer words have never been spoken.
also all the BEST CAs I have ever flown with were very senior and very experienced.
I have learned how to be a CA and learned how to NOT be a CA from the most senior pilots at our airline.
when your good you are good no matter how experienced or senior you are and when you suck you suck no matter how senior or experienced you are. Nothing is going to change that.
03-12-2024, 10:12 AM
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delta has had their own issues! Their 737-wonder captain blew all the tires on a dry runway in SLC. Who was the captain that took off and flew their 767 directly into a hail shaft while everyone else was waiting on the ground?
Airline requirements aside, it's only a reality at United and Delta and experience-related issues seem to have become a thing.
Airline requirements aside, it's only a reality at United and Delta and experience-related issues seem to have become a thing.
03-12-2024, 11:46 AM
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LCA aren't perfect either...and could be in the position for reasons other than experience. Probably one who wanted to be a CKA vs one who was nominated/recruted to be one. BIG difference.
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