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Old 03-11-2024, 08:52 AM
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Inquiring minds want to know. What were the demographics of the pilots that crashed this one?
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Old 03-11-2024, 08:55 AM
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Inquiring minds want to know. What were the demographics of the pilots that crashed this one?
Specifically, age and time in left seat. The rest doesn't really matter...
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Old 03-11-2024, 01:41 PM
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Specifically, age and time in left seat. The rest doesn't really matter...
WGAF? Worst CA I ever flew with when I was an FO had 15,000 hrs in the left seat. By contrast, the best CA I flew with had 450 hrs at the time of our flight together, and she handled a serious emergency with extraordinary grace and professionalism.
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Old 03-11-2024, 02:56 PM
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WGAF? Worst CA I ever flew with when I was an FO had 15,000 hrs in the left seat. By contrast, the best CA I flew with had 450 hrs at the time of our flight together, and she handled a serious emergency with extraordinary grace and professionalism.
because everyone wants to know if experience or arrogance was a factor in carrying 30 knots into a turn on a wet surface. Let's not pretend it's the first thing to come to mind at an operator now known for 1 year upgrades.
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WGAF? Worst CA I ever flew with when I was an FO had 15,000 hrs in the left seat. By contrast, the best CA I flew with had 450 hrs at the time of our flight together, and she handled a serious emergency with extraordinary grace and professionalism.
Same reason 16 year old drivers have high insurance rates.
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Originally Posted by Smooth at FL450
because everyone wants to know if experience or arrogance was a factor in carrying 30 knots into a turn on a wet surface. Let's not pretend it's the first thing to come to mind at an operator now known for 1 year upgrades.
From what I heard from some at United (could totally be wrong though 😂. ) the captain was 3000 seniority so pretty senior. Not sure about the FO.
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Old 03-11-2024, 05:44 PM
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Not sure what the FO could have done. It was pretty quick, the CA had control of the aircraft at that time and also control of the tiller. The FO was along for the ride along with everybody in the back.
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Old 03-11-2024, 06:30 PM
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Not sure what the FO could have done. It was pretty quick, the CA had control of the aircraft at that time and also control of the tiller. The FO was along for the ride along with everybody in the back.
“I’m concerned about going back to TK for remedial CRM training”
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Originally Posted by WhisperJet
WGAF? Worst CA I ever flew with when I was an FO had 15,000 hrs in the left seat. By contrast, the best CA I flew with had 450 hrs at the time of our flight together, and she handled a serious emergency with extraordinary grace and professionalism.
They want to know the demographics so they can regurgitate their own preconceived narrative over on Facebook
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Originally Posted by WhisperJet
WGAF? Worst CA I ever flew with when I was an FO had 15,000 hrs in the left seat. By contrast, the best CA I flew with had 450 hrs at the time of our flight together, and she handled a serious emergency with extraordinary grace and professionalism.
Why do people always jump to the extreme. If this story is true it is a statistical anomole sir/mam. It is just an anecdote. Generally speaking (that is how the world works) 450 hour pilots suck compared to 15000 hour pilots. There is no substitute for experience. We should extend you some grace as well I suppose. When I was 20 something I used to say really stupid sh1t like this too. "Experience is wasted on the youth". Truer words have never been spoken.
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