ThumbsUp

Yes, but are you offended by the term “board” as it pertains to distance remaining markers? Thats’s all that matters here.

Flapsfordrag

being a navy carrier pilot I was trained on the use of boards since flight school in '86. Never knew runway centerline lights turned colors starting at the 3 board until studying for my airline interview.

at6d

WN doesn’t teach the method. We stow the boards on clearing the runway. We also don’t bump the throttle to disengage the autobrakes (another “technique” I’ve heard). We stow reversers at 60kts and I’ve found that applying the appropriate brake pressure at that moment leads to a smooth disengagement of the autobrakes (unless they are at max which is a different animal).

JTwift

wait, first there are boards for distance, and now you’re telling me you stow boards, too? This is madness!

ThumbsUp

No one knows what you’re talking about. You might as well be speaking in meters.

CRJCapitan

The FO literally was the one who asked to roll it long. Tower did not initiate any of this.

CousinEddie

Long ago in the GA world I was taught not to reach for and manipulate any levers during the landing rollout unless absolutely necessary until clear of the runway and at a normal taxi speed. I later taught students the same thing. A few years ago I was taking a tour of a college with a full on flight training program. They invited me to watch a fixed sim session with visuals for a while. As I observed during a landing roll out, the student brought the flaps up. The instructor said nothing. I just quietly shook my head.

Based on the available data, it would appear that not touching anything along with SOP reverse selection would have prevented this event. As far as sometimes getting a "spike" with foot useage to disengage the auto brakes, I have never heard a single passenger comment about it. That would include many rides in the back commuting and deadheading.

Knotcher

For god sake… even Stevie Wonder can see that this accident was not caused by spoilers or landing distance or anything else other than a guy trying to hot dog around the corner and haul a$$ to the gate and go home. Can we end this debate already??

And again, all that counts is what’s in the manual…not what some Riddle guy taught you in the days of yore. Stowing the speed brakes is an approved method of kicking off the auto brakes and had zilch to do with this accident

Scoop

Exactly! Before we know it, someone will claim to understand Cricket.

Scoop

VforVendetta

If you haven't selected the correct autobrakes setting, have floated, etc, yes you have to disconnect the autobrakes early to let it roll or apply manual braking early to increase the deceleration to vacate as planned. Autobrakes disconnect as soon as you've matched the braking pressure applied by the system. There's only a spike if you misjudge and apply more pressure, let go rapidly as autobrakes disengages etc. If that happens to you you should tighten up your skill doing it. Apply pressure gradually until disconnection, then gradually increase or decrease as needed and there won't be a jolt. It's not that hard.