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Old 04-05-2024, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer
the speed brake is your friend. I have never heard of someone stowing the speed brake to disable the auto brakes. Bad idea on a wet runway.
I agree, on a wet runway. But stowing the speedbrake to disable the auto brakes is in the FM. I do it all the time on a dry runway when stopping is assured. Smoother than the 'spike' method employed by so many here.
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Old 04-05-2024, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by PNWFlyer
the speed brake is your friend. I have never heard of someone stowing the speed brake to disable the auto brakes. Bad idea on a wet runway.
It's common on other Boeing fleets. But yes, bad idea when stopping distance is in question.
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Old 04-05-2024, 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by guppie
But stowing the speedbrake to disable the auto brakes is in the FM. I do it all the time on a dry runway when stopping is assured. Smoother than the 'spike' method employed by so many here.
It makes for a much smoother transition to manual braking, and yes, is approved in the FM. Obviously you should only do it when you’re actually ready for manual braking.
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L.A. Times Archives
Sept. 13, 1988 12 AM PT

ASSOCIATED PRESS
WASHINGTON — The Equal Employment Opportunity Commission asked a federal court Monday to hold United Airlines in
contempt for failing to hire enough blacks and women as pilots.

In a motion filed in U.S. District Court in Chicago, the commission charged that United has failed to abide by a 1976 consent
decree in which the airline agreed to hire qualified minority and women pilots at double the rate at which they applied for the jobs in relation to white males.
I will admit, that is surprising indeed.
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Old 04-05-2024, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by guppie
I agree, on a wet runway. But stowing the speedbrake to disable the auto brakes is in the FM. I do it all the time on a dry runway when stopping is assured. Smoother than the 'spike' method employed by so many here.
might be I have never noticed because they do it once slowed down. Not 5 seconds after touching down at little over 120 kts.

As an FO I didn’t have the speed brake option. As a Captain I have never thought to use it… once slowed down. Been used to the overriding it with the brakes. I have something new to try today. On a dry runway, below 100 knots.
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Old 04-05-2024, 10:47 AM
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I don't ever use the spoilers to deactivate the autobrakes. Those wings are generating some lift even below 100 knots. I just prefer to have them deployed for the unexpected. It's a shame to find yourself needing maximum braking(aircraft/vehicle entering the runway, etc), but unable to get it because of this practice. Same with keeping the thrust reversers out even when turning off. Seen a few folks in the habit of blasting them forward just about as soon or shortly after 80 knots is called. Not much sense in that.
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Old 04-05-2024, 10:48 AM
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Can someone post a 737 FM reference stating that lowering the speed brake lever being an acceptable means to disarm the autobrakes on the landing roll? I can't seem to find anything.
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Can someone post a 737 FM reference stating that lowering the speed brake lever being an acceptable means to disarm the autobrakes on the landing roll? I can't seem to find anything.
Normals 3.200.5
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Old 04-05-2024, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
Can someone post a 737 FM reference stating that lowering the speed brake lever being an acceptable means to disarm the autobrakes on the landing roll? I can't seem to find anything.

the Key to using the speed brake handle to disconnect the auto brakes is this phrase

“Once stopping is assured”
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Originally Posted by Duckdude
That seems reasonable, thank you.

Where did you come up with 1,000’ being a “board”? I haven’t heard that before.
it must either be an older generation thing or a military term (mostly) because I had never heard of it before coming to United. My previous regionals at the time were very few military or older generations.
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