You Should Rethink Flying United Airlines
02-03-2024, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by rustypigeon;[url=tel:3763198
3763198[/url]]If only 6% of the pilot pool are a certain demographic, there is no way to hire more than 6% without lowering standards. It's not mathematically possible on a large scale.
Airlines could be giving presentations to high school kids and giving aptitude tests to interested candidates. Then they could find young people who have the aptitude to be a pilot. Instead they want to find certain colors of skin and certain genitals.
Airlines could be giving presentations to high school kids and giving aptitude tests to interested candidates. Then they could find young people who have the aptitude to be a pilot. Instead they want to find certain colors of skin and certain genitals.
02-03-2024, 06:18 AM
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If only 6% of the pilot pool are a certain demographic, there is no way to hire more than 6% without lowering standards. It's not mathematically possible on a large scale.
Airlines could be giving presentations to high school kids and giving aptitude tests to interested candidates. Then they could find young people who have the aptitude to be a pilot. Instead they want to find certain colors of skin and certain genitals.
Airlines could be giving presentations to high school kids and giving aptitude tests to interested candidates. Then they could find young people who have the aptitude to be a pilot. Instead they want to find certain colors of skin and certain genitals.
02-03-2024, 06:43 AM
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The standards are speaking English, ATP, 1500 hours and a FCC radio certification. Thats not being lowered at all. But it’s great that you are assuming that a pilot isn’t qualified based off the color of their skin or their type of genitals. You sound like an amazing person to fly with!!
stand·ard
a level of quality or attainment.
an idea or thing used as a measure, norm, or model in comparative evaluations.
If the average of all pilot pool applicants is 7000 hours and only only 6% of that pool is your desired demographic... you can't hire more than 6% without lowering the average amount of hours below 7000. This is really simple math, folks.
You are free to try to prove me wrong by using math. Show your work.
02-03-2024, 06:47 AM
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I think you and the poster above you are confusing minimums with standards. Using your definition of standards, anyone who speaks English with 1500 hours and paid a few bucks to the FCC for a radio operator permit is qualified to sit in the cockpit.
stand·ard
a level of quality or attainment.
an idea or thing used as a measure, norm, or model in comparative evaluations.
If the average of all pilot pool applicants is 7000 hours and only only 6% of that pool is your desired demographic... you can't hire more than 6% without lowering the average amount of hours below 7000. This is really simple math, folks.
You are free to try to prove me wrong by using math. Show your work.
stand·ard
a level of quality or attainment.
an idea or thing used as a measure, norm, or model in comparative evaluations.
If the average of all pilot pool applicants is 7000 hours and only only 6% of that pool is your desired demographic... you can't hire more than 6% without lowering the average amount of hours below 7000. This is really simple math, folks.
You are free to try to prove me wrong by using math. Show your work.
There, no math required.
02-03-2024, 06:51 AM
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But we can do it your way...
There is no way to hire more than 6% without lowering the level of qualification.
Does that sound better?
02-03-2024, 07:02 AM
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Atlas crash, had all the quals but not the standards.
02-03-2024, 07:22 AM
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All the people caterwauling about DEI and "they takin' our jerbs!" sure make it easy to figure out who is low intellect.
02-03-2024, 07:27 AM
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-It is entirely possible to be intellectually brilliant, and bigoted AF. One has nothing to do with the other. The exposure to other ways of thinking along the way USUALLY enlightens people…but not always. Being progressive doesn’t mean you’re smart…and being prejudiced doesn’t mean you’re stupid…or even wrong 100% of the time. It’s just morally objectionable and intellectually lazy. There’s a difference.
02-03-2024, 07:33 AM
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Mathematically, this is correct, assuming all of the represented demographics are of a smiliar qualification mix. However, since the article is about Aviate, to assume that the applicant pool pool ther looks like what it would at United is probably wrong. I can't say for certain, but United has done a very good job in advertising it as a place for non-white and non-male applicants. It's very likely that white males are in the significant minority of applicants, unlike the applicant pool at United.
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