GSintercept

Enough is enough, In Unity… 😂

fostro

Get back to your merger LOL...

No Stalkers, in Unity...

MaxThrust1

He’s United/ex spirit. Doubt he really cares, he’s already made it. Now, go grab me some leis please.

In Unity…

maxru

I mean, In Unity, right?

EWRflyr

Ah, yes...the instant gratification generation. I was born way too early for this career I guess...

Instead I toiled at the regional level starting off in turboprops until the day I heard the next generation say in the crew room, "I'm a jet FO. The company put me in that because I was too good to be a prop FO. Props are for boats anyway." Reality: the props were being retired when you were hired, Jet Jock.

Then moved to mainline as a lowly NB FO and feeling like I made it to the show until the day I heard, "My entire class was hired into the right seat of the 756 because they thought we'd be great international pilots." Reality: the L-CAL concessionary contract was so bad none of us more senior FOs wanted to fly those planes by DHing over to Europe at 50% pay.

Now sitting in the left seat debating if I should finally take a 756 CA bid or not and I hear this generation of pilots, including a couple of 24-25 year olds I know, worried they won't be able to hold captain in less than a year...with a 40+ year career ahead of them when they will most likely be retiring at 1-200 on the seniority list.

While I know you have questions and worried that the music will stop for a period of time, don't be so quick to want that left seat. The experience you gain in the right seat will be invaluable to you in the long-run. New hire FO possibly on reserve not flying that often jumping to the left seat to be on reserve not flying that often is a concern to many, myself included. Recently flew with an FO who has been here just over two years. A grand total of 600 hours on the plane. Purposely bids reserve so he doesn't have to fly since he has a military retirement.

dmeg13021

And what have we forced the company do to make NBCA more attractive than WBFO?



Not the new guys’ faults.

JTwift

I’d honestly love to see a genuine breakdown of why WBCA gets paid more than NBCA. I know the plane is bigger with more people on board, but if you tally up a 3-leg day on a 737-900, how does that compare to a 1-and-done on a WB, while also being objectively more work?

should’ve just made one captain pay scale and lets people’s preferences (international vs domestic; 3 time zones vs 12 time zones) sort it out.

Hedley

sounds like a smart plan.

60av8tor

And...? I assure you I worked harder in 20 years in the military than I could in 2 lifetimes in this career. It's my time now. Most money for least amount of work. Sounds like you really had to grind when you were younger; so did the 40 something FO you're complaining about. While I agree with a lot of your comments about this hiring environment creating some unrealistic expectations, see the dude's comment below. Hate the game not the player.

yup.

yeah, amazes me, but I appreciate it all the same😃. Sooo much easier it's ridiculous.

Shrek

ALPA decision 83 (Flying the Line I - Chapter 7)