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Old 02-03-2024, 09:48 AM
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Edit: regarding VEC, it seems that if you want to fly, it's not the best option (given the priority stated below). But wait a minute... You get 12+ hours of additional pay on top of guarantee and you are likely to hardly work? I must be missing something, because I would think this category of reserve would go super senior.



20-I-6-a-(1)-(c) Among Reserves in the same silo and Long Call or Short Call status, the following priority shall be used when making the assignment of a Trip: a LCL Reserve, then a Traditional Reserve, and then any VEC, VSC or Compressed Reserve.
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I'm sure there's a catch here somewhere, but these VEC Reserve lines seem pretty attractive if you live in base. What am I missing?
Only catch is that you have to check your schedule early, which makes you vulnerable to early assignments on day one. I already do that anyway though (and I'd bet most local reserves do the same), and like I've mentioned previously, there's generally approximately zero weekday trips in OT in my category, so I doubt I'd actually get an early day one assignment very often. All that to say I'll definitely give it a shot since the pay seems pretty good for (theoretically) very little drawback. TBD how it works in practice though since it hasn't been implemented yet.
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This thread has solid information. What I’m wondering from a practical standpoint, what would be the con to being LCR on a WB and commute into base? Seems like everything is front and back end commutable? What am I missing?
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Only catch is that you have to check your schedule early, which makes you vulnerable to early assignments on day one. I already do that anyway though (and I'd bet most local reserves do the same), and like I've mentioned previously, there's generally approximately zero weekday trips in OT in my category, so I doubt I'd actually get an early day one assignment very often. All that to say I'll definitely give it a shot since the pay seems pretty good for (theoretically) very little drawback. TBD how it works in practice though since it hasn't been implemented yet.
Great points. Ah, I didn't realize VEC was a new thing. That totally makes sense...
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This is absolutely the correct overall summary, but there are some other ways to make a little extra money on reserve too that no one has mentioned yet:
Not mentioned to not expose the gravy train 😂. I actually learned something else from your post, so thanks. I do think VEC coupled with some of the other tricks could net 110-120 hours especially during the busier months. It will be interesting to see how it all plays out. My biggest months last summer were when I got reassigned from say a two day trip, to then work the remaining reserve days as everything after the reassignment is paid at 50% add pay. UPA23 allows you to preference being rolled.
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I'm sure there's a catch here somewhere, but these VEC Reserve lines seem pretty attractive if you live in base. What am I missing?

20-K-1-f-(2)-(f) A VEC Reserve shall be paid two (2) hours of Add Pay for each awarded block of reserve days that starts in the Bid Period. If the Pilot takes an affirmative action to reduce the number of blocks of reserve days, the Add Pay will be reduced by the
number of blocks the Pilot's action removed. A VEC Reserve shall receive an additional fifteen minutes (0:15) of Add Pay for each day of Reserve during the Bid Period. For example, a VEC Reserve Line containing seventeen (17) work days in four (4) blocks of Reserve days (all of which start in the Bid Period) shall receive twelve and one-quarter
hours of Add Pay (12:15) [(17 times 0:15 hours) plus (4 times 2:00 hours)].
this is new - not sure how it plays out in practice yet.

reserve gets old - no matter how much money they throw at it. Depending on the base you can expect to be used and a used all the time.
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
This thread has solid information. What I’m wondering from a practical standpoint, what would be the con to being LCR on a WB and commute into base? Seems like everything is front and back end commutable? What am I missing?
in theory yes. In practice you don’t get to fly at all but get a short call assignment and enjoy your crash pad. If you fly it’s gonna be a horrible domestic trip with a red eye.

WB reserve in base can be very good as you likely get paid for mostly staying home. Commuting to WB reserve and crash pad life - not so much.
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Originally Posted by SoFloFlyer
This thread has solid information. What I’m wondering from a practical standpoint, what would be the con to being LCR on a WB and commute into base? Seems like everything is front and back end commutable? What am I missing?
I wouldn't commute to Global Reserve if you can help it unless you have a place in base... You will find yourself sitting in base a lot on SC going unused during off-peak flying season... FEB through April last year I didn't see a aircraft and pretty much hung out at my sisters place in base a lot during those months.... If you are relying on a Crashpad, that's a lot of crash pad appreciation time....

Generally speaking, east coast to Europe WB trips are commutable. There's about 10 percent that aren't.... It's great if you are a line holder...
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I wouldn't commute to Global Reserve if you can help it unless you have a place in base... You will find yourself sitting in base a lot on SC going unused during off-peak flying season... FEB through April last year I didn't see a aircraft and pretty much hung out at my sisters place in base a lot during those months.... If you are relying on a Crashpad, that's a lot of crash pad appreciation time....

Generally speaking, east coast to Europe WB trips are commutable. There's about 10 percent that aren't.... It's great if you are a line holder...
Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the shift in days on Global Reserve voluntary or some sort order needs to be followed? If converted to SC, it’s only 6 days a month, right? Doesn’t seem terrible if I can sit at home for the rest of my LCR days. Am I missing something?
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in theory yes. In practice you don’t get to fly at all but get a short call assignment and enjoy your crash pad. If you fly it’s gonna be a horrible domestic trip with a red eye.

WB reserve in base can be very good as you likely get paid for mostly staying home. Commuting to WB reserve and crash pad life - not so much.
I’ll be commuting until I can hold MCO so who knows how long that may take. I figured, if I have to commute, let it be to a WB. That said, I’m also not in the know of how things actually work on the WB reserve life. 6 days in a crash pad isn’t too bad considering my regional days where 12 -15 nights in a crash pad was normal. I guess commuting to a crash pad isn’t terrible as long as it’s not half the month.
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