Please tell me about reserve...
#31
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If you get a CA assignment as a new hire it is a strange new animal for us, but the rules are pretty well documented.
Lets say you get a DEN 737 CA assignment. You will get trained as a 737 FO and be based initially in DEN. On every vacancy bid (usually one a month) you can bid for laterals as both an 737 FO and a 737 CA. So, you could get an ORD 737 FO award on a vacancy bid and when the company activates that award you would then be a ORD 737 FO pilot that is waiting to go to Captain school to become a DEN 737 CA. On a subsequent vacancy bid (or even the same one) you could get a lateral to be an ORD 737 CA, then you would still be waiting to go to school, but once trained as a Captain you would get activated as an ORD 737 CA. In any case, you will need to get 500 hours at UA and be off probation before they will send you to Captain school. There are additional provisions that could allow this to happen as early as 350 hours, but those have not been implemented at this point.
In any case if you are awarded a Captain assignment as a new hire, you would not be able to bid to be an FO on a different equipment type, as your official award is 737 Cap (or A320 Cap theoretically) and you cannot bid down to an FO seat. Your only movement while still an FO is to a different domicile that your equipment is at.
As documented above, the long call rules are changing for the better beginning NLT August 24. So you would likely be done with training and OE before then, but not much. Where you can be while standing long call depends a great deal on the number of flights between where you live and where you are based. If you are relatively close and have a bunch of flights, yes you could stand long call at home. If it is far and flights are infrequent, then prob not. Folks that live in MSP and are based at ORD can prob make it work. Folks that live in MSP and are based in SFO, prob not. The night time call with minimum allowable notice for a trip the next day is usually the toughest test.
Lets say you get a DEN 737 CA assignment. You will get trained as a 737 FO and be based initially in DEN. On every vacancy bid (usually one a month) you can bid for laterals as both an 737 FO and a 737 CA. So, you could get an ORD 737 FO award on a vacancy bid and when the company activates that award you would then be a ORD 737 FO pilot that is waiting to go to Captain school to become a DEN 737 CA. On a subsequent vacancy bid (or even the same one) you could get a lateral to be an ORD 737 CA, then you would still be waiting to go to school, but once trained as a Captain you would get activated as an ORD 737 CA. In any case, you will need to get 500 hours at UA and be off probation before they will send you to Captain school. There are additional provisions that could allow this to happen as early as 350 hours, but those have not been implemented at this point.
In any case if you are awarded a Captain assignment as a new hire, you would not be able to bid to be an FO on a different equipment type, as your official award is 737 Cap (or A320 Cap theoretically) and you cannot bid down to an FO seat. Your only movement while still an FO is to a different domicile that your equipment is at.
As documented above, the long call rules are changing for the better beginning NLT August 24. So you would likely be done with training and OE before then, but not much. Where you can be while standing long call depends a great deal on the number of flights between where you live and where you are based. If you are relatively close and have a bunch of flights, yes you could stand long call at home. If it is far and flights are infrequent, then prob not. Folks that live in MSP and are based at ORD can prob make it work. Folks that live in MSP and are based in SFO, prob not. The night time call with minimum allowable notice for a trip the next day is usually the toughest test.
#32
I have been at UAL for about three months, which means that I haven't even flown my first trip after IOE. If I were based in SFO, I would be about 85% in my category already, and would be guaranteed a line once I hit 70%. There are already a dozen people junior to me that have been awarded NB CA in SFO. If you come here, you will quickly get a SFO base, quickly hold a line as an FO, and quickly hold a CA slot, if that's what you want. I left a really good job to come here, and am very glad that I did.
#33
If you get a CA assignment as a new hire it is a strange new animal for us, but the rules are pretty well documented.
Lets say you get a DEN 737 CA assignment. You will get trained as a 737 FO and be based initially in DEN. On every vacancy bid (usually one a month) you can bid for laterals as both an 737 FO and a 737 CA. So, you could get an ORD 737 FO award on a vacancy bid and when the company activates that award you would then be a ORD 737 FO pilot that is waiting to go to Captain school to become a DEN 737 CA. On a subsequent vacancy bid (or even the same one) you could get a lateral to be an ORD 737 CA, then you would still be waiting to go to school, but once trained as a Captain you would get activated as an ORD 737 CA. In any case, you will need to get 500 hours at UA and be off probation before they will send you to Captain school. There are additional provisions that could allow this to happen as early as 350 hours, but those have not been implemented at this point.
In any case if you are awarded a Captain assignment as a new hire, you would not be able to bid to be an FO on a different equipment type, as your official award is 737 Cap (or A320 Cap theoretically) and you cannot bid down to an FO seat. Your only movement while still an FO is to a different domicile that your equipment is at.
As documented above, the long call rules are changing for the better beginning NLT August 24. So you would likely be done with training and OE before then, but not much. Where you can be while standing long call depends a great deal on the number of flights between where you live and where you are based. If you are relatively close and have a bunch of flights, yes you could stand long call at home. If it is far and flights are infrequent, then prob not. Folks that live in MSP and are based at ORD can prob make it work. Folks that live in MSP and are based in SFO, prob not. The night time call with minimum allowable notice for a trip the next day is usually the toughest test.
Lets say you get a DEN 737 CA assignment. You will get trained as a 737 FO and be based initially in DEN. On every vacancy bid (usually one a month) you can bid for laterals as both an 737 FO and a 737 CA. So, you could get an ORD 737 FO award on a vacancy bid and when the company activates that award you would then be a ORD 737 FO pilot that is waiting to go to Captain school to become a DEN 737 CA. On a subsequent vacancy bid (or even the same one) you could get a lateral to be an ORD 737 CA, then you would still be waiting to go to school, but once trained as a Captain you would get activated as an ORD 737 CA. In any case, you will need to get 500 hours at UA and be off probation before they will send you to Captain school. There are additional provisions that could allow this to happen as early as 350 hours, but those have not been implemented at this point.
In any case if you are awarded a Captain assignment as a new hire, you would not be able to bid to be an FO on a different equipment type, as your official award is 737 Cap (or A320 Cap theoretically) and you cannot bid down to an FO seat. Your only movement while still an FO is to a different domicile that your equipment is at.
As documented above, the long call rules are changing for the better beginning NLT August 24. So you would likely be done with training and OE before then, but not much. Where you can be while standing long call depends a great deal on the number of flights between where you live and where you are based. If you are relatively close and have a bunch of flights, yes you could stand long call at home. If it is far and flights are infrequent, then prob not. Folks that live in MSP and are based at ORD can prob make it work. Folks that live in MSP and are based in SFO, prob not. The night time call with minimum allowable notice for a trip the next day is usually the toughest test.
When does Captain pay start? award date? or off ioe?
#34
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My experience on reserve from May through December. I rarely did aggressive pickup. I usually, almost without fail, was given short call on the first day, if it wasn’t a short call I was assigned a trip.
In my mind I’m pretty sure they look at who is starting their reserve period and putting them on short call to get them in base if they’re a commuter. Once I’m on short call it’s day on day off to keep me in base. This is almost without fail too. Usually by the second day I have something assigned. I have about 350 hours with October being a line.
In my mind I’m pretty sure they look at who is starting their reserve period and putting them on short call to get them in base if they’re a commuter. Once I’m on short call it’s day on day off to keep me in base. This is almost without fail too. Usually by the second day I have something assigned. I have about 350 hours with October being a line.
#35
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Joined APC: Jun 2018
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My experience on reserve from May through December. I rarely did aggressive pickup. I usually, almost without fail, was given short call on the first day, if it wasn’t a short call I was assigned a trip.
In my mind I’m pretty sure they look at who is starting their reserve period and putting them on short call to get them in base if they’re a commuter. Once I’m on short call it’s day on day off to keep me in base. This is almost without fail too. Usually by the second day I have something assigned. I have about 350 hours with October being a line.
In my mind I’m pretty sure they look at who is starting their reserve period and putting them on short call to get them in base if they’re a commuter. Once I’m on short call it’s day on day off to keep me in base. This is almost without fail too. Usually by the second day I have something assigned. I have about 350 hours with October being a line.
#36
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I also have a sort of noob question. What exactly is global reserve? I understand it is reserve for fleets that fly far enough south in South America or to Europe or Asia, but I have been struggling to understand exactly what it is, and how it changed if at all with the new contract, thank you in advance.
#37
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I also have a sort of noob question. What exactly is global reserve? I understand it is reserve for fleets that fly far enough south in South America or to Europe or Asia, but I have been struggling to understand exactly what it is, and how it changed if at all with the new contract, thank you in advance.
#38
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#39
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technically, the captain pay you’re referring to doesn’t start until first leg of IOE. The captain pay starting at LOE doesn’t kick in until April.
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