Checkride Failures
01-16-2024, 07:40 AM
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Depends. I've it's old news you're probably okay. If it's recent, probably not so much. I know someone who failed the same CFI checkride 4 times and he's at United. I know someone who failed 5 different check rides including a 91/135 and a 121 checkride within the 3 years prior to meeting UAL at a Job fair... the recruiter very frankly told him that he wasn't what UAL was looking for.
01-16-2024, 07:55 AM
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In addition to frequency, timing, and attitude; race, gender, and gender identity matter greatly. He has publicly stated he wants 50% of the pilot group to be other than white male. Checkride failures weigh less if you are other than white male.
01-16-2024, 08:24 AM
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Are you sure that's what he said? That's not what he said. But if he did, he's failing big time on those percentages. Have you bothered to take a look at the new hire class pictures in the FOUs?
01-16-2024, 10:21 AM
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That's about where it's at.
My above was sarcasm, tainted with TRUTH.
Sorry, but in the last few years we've ALL seen people getting hired that don't conform.
Well, NOT exactly, but;
Sorry, but in the last few years we've ALL seen people getting hired that don't conform.
Well, NOT exactly, but;
"Over the next decade, United will train 5,000 pilots who will be guaranteed a job with United, after they complete the requirements of the Aviate program – and our plan is for half of them to be women and people of color," said United CEO Scott Kirby. "We're excited that JPMorgan Chase has agreed to support our work to diversify our pilot ranks and create new opportunities for thousands of women and people of color who want to pursue a career in aviation."
01-16-2024, 12:00 PM
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So 5000 Aviate over 10 years = 500/year
2000 hires/year - 500 = 1500 non-Aviate hires
1500 hires X 90% white guys = 1350 white guys
plus 250 Aviate white guys = 1600 white guys
out of 2000 hires that’s still 80% white guys.
Go peddle your wares in your DeSantis subforum.
2000 hires/year - 500 = 1500 non-Aviate hires
1500 hires X 90% white guys = 1350 white guys
plus 250 Aviate white guys = 1600 white guys
out of 2000 hires that’s still 80% white guys.
Go peddle your wares in your DeSantis subforum.
01-16-2024, 12:07 PM
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So 5000 Aviate over 10 years = 500/year
2000 hires/year - 500 = 1500 non-Aviate hires
1500 hires X 90% white guys = 1350 white guys
plus 250 Aviate white guys = 1600 white guys
out of 2000 hires that’s still 80% white guys.
Go peddle your wares in your DeSantis subforum.
2000 hires/year - 500 = 1500 non-Aviate hires
1500 hires X 90% white guys = 1350 white guys
plus 250 Aviate white guys = 1600 white guys
out of 2000 hires that’s still 80% white guys.
Go peddle your wares in your DeSantis subforum.
01-16-2024, 12:24 PM
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Using your logic, if I look at a picture of NBA/NFL teams, it's obvious that they discriminate against white men.
Wouldn't you need to look at the applicant pool and see what the percentages of minorities are of the qualified applicants ?
I'm curious what % of minorities/women don't get an interview/turned down, compared to white males.
Wouldn't you need to look at the applicant pool and see what the percentages of minorities are of the qualified applicants ?
I'm curious what % of minorities/women don't get an interview/turned down, compared to white males.
01-16-2024, 12:30 PM
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Using who's logic? I made the comment about the pictures to show the poster I was replying to that not only was he wrong about what SK said, but to point out that what the poster was trying to allude to wasn't what is actually happening.
01-16-2024, 12:53 PM
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Using your logic, if I look at a picture of NBA/NFL teams, it's obvious that they discriminate against white men.
Wouldn't you need to look at the applicant pool and see what the percentages of minorities are of the qualified applicants ?
I'm curious what % of minorities/women don't get an interview/turned down, compared to white males.
Wouldn't you need to look at the applicant pool and see what the percentages of minorities are of the qualified applicants ?
I'm curious what % of minorities/women don't get an interview/turned down, compared to white males.
01-16-2024, 12:56 PM
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Using your logic, if I look at a picture of NBA/NFL teams, it's obvious that they discriminate against white men.
Wouldn't you need to look at the applicant pool and see what the percentages of minorities are of the qualified applicants ?
I'm curious what % of minorities/women don't get an interview/turned down, compared to white males.
Wouldn't you need to look at the applicant pool and see what the percentages of minorities are of the qualified applicants ?
I'm curious what % of minorities/women don't get an interview/turned down, compared to white males.
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