How long to hold 777/787 WB CA?
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Posts: 667
you understand your math matches his math, right? I'm shortly behind him, and with my current seniority number, and your same planned math with 787 deliveries, my math matches both of yours too. So yeah, I think a 2014 hire will be a wb Capt around 13-14 years.
#14
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 562
#16
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: B-737 Captain
Posts: 657
Ok, I’ll give a real answer.
asking this question is a fools errand. In the past 2 1/2 years, we’ve hired like 6000 people. In the past 3 1/2 years, we’ve hired like 6000 people. There are gaps where people separated by a single seniority number were hired YEARS apart.
we have 100 plus additional options of 787s on order. Do we end up taking them all before something wacky happens?
Not too long ago, it was a decade+ to hold NB Captain. Now you can get that on day one.
so, how long to hold WB Captain?there’s not a soul on earth who can give you an accurate answer.
If things stay good and orders get delivered, maybe15 years? But I also just pulled that number out of thin air. So…/shrug.
asking this question is a fools errand. In the past 2 1/2 years, we’ve hired like 6000 people. In the past 3 1/2 years, we’ve hired like 6000 people. There are gaps where people separated by a single seniority number were hired YEARS apart.
we have 100 plus additional options of 787s on order. Do we end up taking them all before something wacky happens?
Not too long ago, it was a decade+ to hold NB Captain. Now you can get that on day one.
so, how long to hold WB Captain?there’s not a soul on earth who can give you an accurate answer.
If things stay good and orders get delivered, maybe15 years? But I also just pulled that number out of thin air. So…/shrug.
Last edited by guppie; 01-13-2024 at 06:44 AM.
#17
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2015
Position: Captain
Posts: 1,561
so retirements and if no others senior to you bid for a captain
got it
SFO 777 captain snapshot shows 2200 seniority in case you missed it
again 6200 seniority
if you are there by year 14 you will get it
as long as Boeing does not f--- up the deliveries
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 687
Word. Projections in this business are silly. Anecdotally, I was sitting right seat in a 777 at year 2, with NB captains junior to me..... 8 years later, at year 10, I was throwing gear in a 757 on reserve, unable to even hold a 777 right seat. Sheet happens. On a related note, UAL dropped 10% yesterday to a fresh 52 week low after lowering 4th qtr profit estimates. I believe Jim Morrison said it best, "the futures uncertain and the end is always near".
#19
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 311
You might want to double check that. Yes, the stock went down 10%, but so did every other airline stock. And it was because Delta adjusted their outlook for next year down just slightly. And it was not even close to a new 52-week low. United will announce 4Q earnings on the 23rd.
#20
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Position: B-737 Captain
Posts: 657
You might want to double check that. Yes, the stock went down 10%, but so did every other airline stock. And it was because Delta adjusted their outlook for next year down just slightly. And it was not even close to a new 52-week low. United will announce 4Q earnings on the 23rd.
https://www.cnbc.com/2023/10/17/unit...earnings-.html
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post