New Hire CA Timelines - IAD NB
12-26-2023, 06:27 AM
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New Hire CA Timelines - IAD NB
I have a CJO and am expecting a class in the first quarter of ‘24.
If I happened to be assigned as a new hire CA, to say EWR, what is the timeline/outlook for then getting based in IAD? What would that then look like for the foreseeable future? Reserve? Bad schedule for X amount of years?
Ideally I want to make my way there as an FO. Would it be better to bid an FO spot anywhere else vs trying to stay on the east coast, commute for a time, and then make my way back to IAD that way?
If I happened to be assigned as a new hire CA, to say EWR, what is the timeline/outlook for then getting based in IAD? What would that then look like for the foreseeable future? Reserve? Bad schedule for X amount of years?
Ideally I want to make my way there as an FO. Would it be better to bid an FO spot anywhere else vs trying to stay on the east coast, commute for a time, and then make my way back to IAD that way?
12-26-2023, 08:20 AM
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I have a CJO and am expecting a class in the first quarter of ‘24.
If I happened to be assigned as a new hire CA, to say EWR, what is the timeline/outlook for then getting based in IAD? What would that then look like for the foreseeable future? Reserve? Bad schedule for X amount of years?
Ideally I want to make my way there as an FO. Would it be better to bid an FO spot anywhere else vs trying to stay on the east coast, commute for a time, and then make my way back to IAD that way?
If I happened to be assigned as a new hire CA, to say EWR, what is the timeline/outlook for then getting based in IAD? What would that then look like for the foreseeable future? Reserve? Bad schedule for X amount of years?
Ideally I want to make my way there as an FO. Would it be better to bid an FO spot anywhere else vs trying to stay on the east coast, commute for a time, and then make my way back to IAD that way?
There were no DCA categories with unfilled vacancies on the last bid, so no DCA positions will be offered to new hires in the near term. It is always easier to move around as an FO, though. So getting a NBFO position anywhere and then bidding to DCA on the NBFO/WBFO/NBCA will give you the most options.
12-26-2023, 08:57 AM
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I have a CJO and am expecting a class in the first quarter of ‘24.
If I happened to be assigned as a new hire CA, to say EWR, what is the timeline/outlook for then getting based in IAD? What would that then look like for the foreseeable future? Reserve? Bad schedule for X amount of years?
Ideally I want to make my way there as an FO. Would it be better to bid an FO spot anywhere else vs trying to stay on the east coast, commute for a time, and then make my way back to IAD that way?
If I happened to be assigned as a new hire CA, to say EWR, what is the timeline/outlook for then getting based in IAD? What would that then look like for the foreseeable future? Reserve? Bad schedule for X amount of years?
Ideally I want to make my way there as an FO. Would it be better to bid an FO spot anywhere else vs trying to stay on the east coast, commute for a time, and then make my way back to IAD that way?
Your first year you will be an FO regardless and you can bid for base changes regardless of where you may have been forced into captain. So even if you get sent to EWR CA, you can bid DCA FO.
DCA 737 CA is currently not one that has gone super junior. Doubt that changes. If you get assigned EWR CA you're probably staying there.
Good news is that DCA-EWR is the easiest commute in the system. Nearly hourly flights and they're never full because it's a slot-squatting operation.
12-26-2023, 10:58 AM
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I have a CJO and am expecting a class in the first quarter of ‘24.
If I happened to be assigned as a new hire CA, to say EWR, what is the timeline/outlook for then getting based in IAD? What would that then look like for the foreseeable future? Reserve? Bad schedule for X amount of years?
Ideally I want to make my way there as an FO. Would it be better to bid an FO spot anywhere else vs trying to stay on the east coast, commute for a time, and then make my way back to IAD that way?
If I happened to be assigned as a new hire CA, to say EWR, what is the timeline/outlook for then getting based in IAD? What would that then look like for the foreseeable future? Reserve? Bad schedule for X amount of years?
Ideally I want to make my way there as an FO. Would it be better to bid an FO spot anywhere else vs trying to stay on the east coast, commute for a time, and then make my way back to IAD that way?
is starting to increase…. So if you end up with EWR 737 CA. You gonna be there at lease a year. Maybe longer. Same goes for WB slots….
Stick with the 737 NB FO…. That’s your quickest path back to DCA….
12-26-2023, 11:27 AM
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I have a CJO and am expecting a class in the first quarter of ‘24.
If I happened to be assigned as a new hire CA, to say EWR, what is the timeline/outlook for then getting based in IAD? What would that then look like for the foreseeable future? Reserve? Bad schedule for X amount of years?
Ideally I want to make my way there as an FO. Would it be better to bid an FO spot anywhere else vs trying to stay on the east coast, commute for a time, and then make my way back to IAD that way?
If I happened to be assigned as a new hire CA, to say EWR, what is the timeline/outlook for then getting based in IAD? What would that then look like for the foreseeable future? Reserve? Bad schedule for X amount of years?
Ideally I want to make my way there as an FO. Would it be better to bid an FO spot anywhere else vs trying to stay on the east coast, commute for a time, and then make my way back to IAD that way?
Even if the only NB FO seat available to you is in SFO, take that. You should be able to get, worst case, EWR before you're done with training.
12-26-2023, 09:17 PM
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Bottom line: The longest they can force you to be a captain is 2 years. That almost certainly means reserve for two years. (Especially because the new supply of reserve captains makes it easier for more senior people to bid in as a lineholder). But then you can leave.
Your first year you will be an FO regardless and you can bid for base changes regardless of where you may have been forced into captain. So even if you get sent to EWR CA, you can bid DCA FO.
DCA 737 CA is currently not one that has gone super junior. Doubt that changes. If you get assigned EWR CA you're probably staying there.
Good news is that DCA-EWR is the easiest commute in the system. Nearly hourly flights and they're never full because it's a slot-squatting operation.
Your first year you will be an FO regardless and you can bid for base changes regardless of where you may have been forced into captain. So even if you get sent to EWR CA, you can bid DCA FO.
DCA 737 CA is currently not one that has gone super junior. Doubt that changes. If you get assigned EWR CA you're probably staying there.
Good news is that DCA-EWR is the easiest commute in the system. Nearly hourly flights and they're never full because it's a slot-squatting operation.
12-27-2023, 04:05 AM
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Old contract - seat lock began when you began training
New contract - seat lock begins on award
Separately - if you are 12 months out from being able to traing for a captain award, you can still bounce from base to base - leading to the situation where people can bid for (and receive) two awards on a given vacancy. Say you were awarded SFO 737 CA on day 1 (which included SFO 737 FO). You could subsequently be awarded DEN 737 FO and EWR 737 CA on the same bid.
12-27-2023, 04:32 AM
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Won’t involuntarily assigned Captain Newhires technically only be required to sit in the left seat for about 1 year since seat lock is 2 years beginning the time of award and they need one year to percolate and then 100 hrs of OE?
12-27-2023, 05:26 AM
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also, the 100 hrs of OE applies once you move to the left seat (not as an FO) AND it also only applies to those being trained under 9-K as accelerated pilots (ie. The 350 hrs in type at UA) which they are not currently using,
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