Voski

The new program was officially launched today: https://careers.united.com/us/en/uni...-pilot-program

Any military manned aircraft pilot with greater than 6 months until availability can apply and receive a CJO. The above website gives decent information, but the FAQ fleshes out some of the finer details.

Russell Case

Interesting side notes: United doesn’t plan on interviewing UMPP applicants till first quarter CY24, and won’t be hiring any UMPP applicants prior to Sept 1, 2024. So if you’re availability is prior to that, maintain the traditional application process. Also it literally says traditional applicants aren’t looked at until 6 months prior to availability for Retiring or EASing military pilots in the normal application process.

Voski

That is interesting.

While the music can stop at any time, the program announcement and associated timeline is interesting to me. The hiring at all the majors is red hot with the pool of highly competitive candidates continually shrinking. There’s been some leaks from AA showing there’s only 6,000ish qualified pilots in the applicant pool, meaning it’s likely similar across the big 3. Obviously there’s newly qualified applicants coming, but the hiring market is tight and programs like this will help secure pilots earlier in the pipeline as things continue to get even tighter.

TechTanker

This isn’t gonna secure anything unless they can get a line number. Lol Pilots will get CJOs from where ever they can then go where best suits them. If we want to attract pilots we need the best QOL we can give them.

FlewNavy

This program will go a long way in aligning with a military pilot’s separation or retirement timeline and matches programs or policies from other majors. The decision making progress for a military pilot starts 12-24 months prior to their availability date to start training. Now instead of waiting until inside the 6 month process - United can be part of the decision tree IF they get offers from multiple majors. If I had an offer from DAL 6-12 months prior to an offer from United…there would have been a good chance that the wife/family would have made the moving and housing decisions before a UAL offer could have been evaluated. Bottom line,,.this program is a good move.

9 years ago - no company was looking at a mil pilot til within 30 days or so of “availability”. Oh how times change…

calpilot69

What's up with all the safety vests from the dry cleaners misspelled words and photoshopped ear plugs?

BlueScholar

A step in the right direction, but it's still pretty absurd that the company is insisting on having an ATP prior to a start date culminating in a checkride which would provide an ATP anyways. Yes we trust the training, yes we recognize you're qualified to take a military aircraft anywhere in the world, but to earn spot at TK first you need to prove you can pay $100 to Sheppard Air for the written test, then pay a few grand to any of the mil friendly ATP outfits. What exactly is that accomplishing besides encouraging folks to make Delta their first choice?

hindsight2020

fwiw, DL allows application up to 24 months from stated availability, and doesn't exclude me on the basis of being an AGR (hey I thought SCOTUS struck down affirmative action?¿ I keed I keed).

I dunno, this is a nothingburger to me, I'm with TechTanker on this one. CJO today don't do ish for me in two-three years, other than maybe arbitraging it against a different airline I'm more interested in. Heck, in 2020 many of those CJOs were effectively rescinded, as would be expected.

I mean, I get 'conditionals' all the time on LinkedIn for all sorts of jobs, that and a buck eighty gets me a brick of sugar wafer cookies at Walmart. It's getting that line number clock started ahead enough so I don't have to half-transcon commute (non-starter) to some HCOL reserve hot trash while waiting for Godot for my domicile of choice. That's what changes everything. One of my favorite scenes comes to mind:




"pAy uR duUuUeS!" brigade in 3...2....

/stirpot

PilotWannaBe

Does anyone know how to delete a current United application on file? It says I can't continue with the UMPP while I have another application on file. However, I would qualify for the UMPP and it would better suit me.

GucciMoose

I'd just reach out to them at [email protected] and explain your situation.