United Military Pilot Program
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Gear slinger
Posts: 2,980
Contact pilot recruitment and have them transition your profile to the new application.
#12
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2013
Position: C-130H WO
Posts: 76
Does this work for AGR?
fwiw, DL allows application up to 24 months from stated availability, and doesn't exclude me on the basis of being an AGR (hey I thought SCOTUS struck down affirmative action?¿ I keed I keed).
I dunno, this is a nothingburger to me, I'm with TechTanker on this one. CJO today don't do ish for me in two-three years, other than maybe arbitraging it against a different airline I'm more interested in. Heck, in 2020 many of those CJOs were effectively rescinded, as would be expected.
I mean, I get 'conditionals' all the time on LinkedIn for all sorts of jobs, that and a buck eighty gets me a brick of sugar wafer cookies at Walmart. It's getting that line number clock started ahead enough so I don't have to half-transcon commute (non-starter) to some HCOL reserve hot trash while waiting for Godot for my domicile of choice. That's what changes everything. One of my favorite scenes comes to mind:
"pAy uR duUuUeS!" brigade in 3...2....
/stirpot
I dunno, this is a nothingburger to me, I'm with TechTanker on this one. CJO today don't do ish for me in two-three years, other than maybe arbitraging it against a different airline I'm more interested in. Heck, in 2020 many of those CJOs were effectively rescinded, as would be expected.
I mean, I get 'conditionals' all the time on LinkedIn for all sorts of jobs, that and a buck eighty gets me a brick of sugar wafer cookies at Walmart. It's getting that line number clock started ahead enough so I don't have to half-transcon commute (non-starter) to some HCOL reserve hot trash while waiting for Godot for my domicile of choice. That's what changes everything. One of my favorite scenes comes to mind:
"pAy uR duUuUeS!" brigade in 3...2....
/stirpot
#13
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 114
For purposes of this Program Guide, “Active Duty” refers to full-time service members and excludes reserve-component personnel who are on full-time active duty for training or temporary operational duties. This definition also excludes Active Guard and Reserve (AGR) or similar full-time reserve-component positions.
#14
On Reserve
Joined APC: Sep 2023
Posts: 14
A step in the right direction, but it's still pretty absurd that the company is insisting on having an ATP prior to a start date culminating in a checkride which would provide an ATP anyways. Yes we trust the training, yes we recognize you're qualified to take a military aircraft anywhere in the world, but to earn spot at TK first you need to prove you can pay $100 to Sheppard Air for the written test, then pay a few grand to any of the mil friendly ATP outfits. What exactly is that accomplishing besides encouraging folks to make Delta their first choice?
#15
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Position: Gear slinger
Posts: 2,980
A step in the right direction, but it's still pretty absurd that the company is insisting on having an ATP prior to a start date culminating in a checkride which would provide an ATP anyways. Yes we trust the training, yes we recognize you're qualified to take a military aircraft anywhere in the world, but to earn spot at TK first you need to prove you can pay $100 to Sheppard Air for the written test, then pay a few grand to any of the mil friendly ATP outfits. What exactly is that accomplishing besides encouraging folks to make Delta their first choice?
There may be a legitimate reason (AQP approval etc.) as to why they do it differently, but DAL is gonna DAL and UAL is gonna UAL.
#16
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2013
Posts: 49
A step in the right direction, but it's still pretty absurd that the company is insisting on having an ATP prior to a start date culminating in a checkride which would provide an ATP anyways. Yes we trust the training, yes we recognize you're qualified to take a military aircraft anywhere in the world, but to earn spot at TK first you need to prove you can pay $100 to Sheppard Air for the written test, then pay a few grand to any of the mil friendly ATP outfits. What exactly is that accomplishing besides encouraging folks to make Delta their first choice?
The primary benefit of the MPP is that it primarily eliminates the hesitancy of getting out vs. staying in, and secondarily drives them toward UAL instead of having to hit up networking and job fairs, etc., once they get out. I can't even imagine the peace of mind I would have had to basically have a guaranteed legacy job waiting for me right after I got my wings. That would have been amazing.
#17
This! As far as AGRs, I don’t see any reason not to jump on this. Then 4-6 years out, before your CC gig, go to indoc and training. Consolidate then see you later! Best gig imaginable. Works great, lasts long time…
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