Tell me what’s better at United
09-29-2023, 06:14 AM
#61
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Exactly. It wasn’t long ago that 135/corporate were extremely rare in new hire classes. I’ve flown with some great pilots from that world but it wasn’t easy to make that jump for many. Also wasn’t long ago that our recruiters were scrutinizing college GPAs and favoring those with graduate degrees on top of thousands of hours of PIC jet at 121 carriers. I get it- times have recently changed and we are “casting a wider net” but this guy comes on here expecting people who were hired here under traditional conditions to make a case for him to just hop on over. Mind blown…..
Like I said, STAY PUT. We’re all better off, since we won’t have to hear you blather endlessly about whether or not you made the right decision.
09-29-2023, 09:28 AM
#62
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Agreed - and the fact that this pilot is finding the pressure from his colleagues to apply to UAL “overwhelming” is perplexing and troublesome. If a wide-open career possibility is “overwhelming” to you, then I’d hate to be with you down at the bottom of an ILS on one engine in crabby weather…in a foreign country….in the mountains…you know - actually overwhelming.
Like I said, STAY PUT. We’re all better off, since we won’t have to hear you blather endlessly about whether or not you made the right decision.
Like I said, STAY PUT. We’re all better off, since we won’t have to hear you blather endlessly about whether or not you made the right decision.
09-30-2023, 07:02 PM
#63
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Agreed - and the fact that this pilot is finding the pressure from his colleagues to apply to UAL “overwhelming” is perplexing and troublesome. If a wide-open career possibility is “overwhelming” to you, then I’d hate to be with you down at the bottom of an ILS on one engine in crabby weather…in a foreign country….in the mountains…you know - actually overwhelming.
Like I said, STAY PUT. We’re all better off, since we won’t have to hear you blather endlessly about whether or not you made the right decision.
Like I said, STAY PUT. We’re all better off, since we won’t have to hear you blather endlessly about whether or not you made the right decision.
10-01-2023, 05:04 AM
#64
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I appreciate the feedback. I certainly don’t think it’s unreasonable to be overwhelmed by indecision in a market like this, and I’m sure we all compartmentalize the rest of our lives when the engines are running, at least to the best of our ability. The decision I make in the coming weeks / months will have intensely serious consequences that will last the next 40 or so years of my career. I came seeking informed guidance and advice for someone in my specific situation, and I think I’ve received some of that. Thanks all for your wisdom, it does tip the scales.
Make your decision and move on. The real truth is nobody really gives a crap and you're just a cog regardless of where you go. Not a single person on the streets cares if you're a NJ pilot or UAL.
10-01-2023, 05:13 PM
#65
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I appreciate the feedback. I certainly don’t think it’s unreasonable to be overwhelmed by indecision in a market like this, and I’m sure we all compartmentalize the rest of our lives when the engines are running, at least to the best of our ability. The decision I make in the coming weeks / months will have intensely serious consequences that will last the next 40 or so years of my career. I came seeking informed guidance and advice for someone in my specific situation, and I think I’ve received some of that. Thanks all for your wisdom, it does tip the scales.
Even after you set the parking brake for the last time in your career, you still won’t know whether you made the right choice.
For example, I know pilots who worked for Peoples Express and New York Air. They got merged/acquired into Continental; hated it, so they quit and started over at United. After the merger between United and Continental it became obvious that they would have been much better off if they just stayed at Continental. Who knew?
10-01-2023, 06:05 PM
#66
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Back in the day I was filling out a United application while working the 727 panel at CAL. The captain told me that CAL wasn’t always going to suck and that it might be better for me to stick around. I’m not sure what possessed me to take his advice (I knew it ALL back then) but I’m sure glad I did.
10-06-2023, 05:13 PM
#67
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im not a United guy but it doesn’t sound like you truly want to leave NJ. If you’re happy I would stay . I have buddies who went to United from LCC’s and it wasn’t what they thought it was going to be but obviously there’s ppl who love it. The flying is different as well. 121 is more fast paced and structured. Charter as you know, is a lot of sitting around. If I were you I would just stay at NJ, it’s a good gig and they’re not going anywhere anytime soon.
Stay at Nutjets…
10-06-2023, 07:05 PM
#68
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Well, till getting hired, and doesn’t have to do/pencil whip it anymore.
10-07-2023, 06:31 AM
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An interview is a 2 way exercise. United is also courting the potential pilot.
10-07-2023, 12:22 PM
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TLDR. Sorry… im in DEN 756. Life is good here. I cant believe how little i work and how much i get paid. Den is senior. But with the movement you can get in. Instructors buy my trips like they are going out of style. That with some creative bidding the company usually also takes a trip or two a month/every other month. I typically dont double dip, i enjoy my 20-23 days off a month (typical month) . I dk what it’s like over there but from one mans experience, UAL is the promised land. To each their own. Get the CJO… then make the call. Good first world problems to have. Cheers
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