Age 67 fallout
09-20-2023, 05:42 PM
#122
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Congress of the United States
House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
August 28, 2023
Dear Members of the ICAO Council,
I am writing to inform you that in July of this year, the House of Representatives in the United States of America passed H.R. 3935, the Securing Growth and Robust Leadership in American Aviation Act, by an overwhelming bipartisan 351- 69 vote. This bill contains an important provision to raise the mandatory retirement age for commercial pilots from 65 to 67. The Senate committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation is expected to release their version of the Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization before October with the same bipartisan provision to raise the retirement age. I respectfully submit that it is in international aviation industry's best interest to raise this age for several compelling reasons.
Modern medical advances have significantly extended life expectancy and enhanced general health, particularly for individuals in their sixties. These advancements have translated into people staying physically and mentally fit for a longer period, thereby enabling them to continue effectively performing demanding tasks, including piloting aircraft. With the extensive and rigorous training that pilots undergo, it is a monumental investment for both the individual and the industry. By increasing the retirement age, we are maximizing this investment, allowing for additional years of service for the most experienced and knowledgeable pilots
Furthermore, we are presently witnessing a global pilot shortage which is affecting the United States extensively causing delays and limiting investment for new planes. Raising the retirement age would serve as ¿ viable solution, allowing for a larger, experienced pool of pilots to remain in service. This would not only help alleviate the current crisis but would also provide mentorship opportunities for newer pilots entering the industry.
Lastly, in the context of equal rights and age discrimination, extending the retirement age to 67 would harmonize the aviation industry with other sectors where professionals, such as judges and physicians, continue to serve in their respective capacities beyond the age of 65. This would send a strong message that age should not be the sole determinant in evaluating a pilot's capability to perform their duties effectively and safely. I understand that safety is paramount in the aviation industry. For this reason, the bill that passed the House of Representatives maintains the same stringent medical and competency evaluations for pilots over the age of 65, ensuring that only those in optimal condition continue to serve.
In conclusion, I respectfully request that the ICAO Council consider this proposal to increase the retirement age for pilots from 65 to 67. I believe that this change, paired with rigorous health and competency assessments, will benefit not only the aviation industry but society as a whole
Sincerely
Troy E. Nehls
Member of Congress
House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
August 28, 2023
Dear Members of the ICAO Council,
I am writing to inform you that in July of this year, the House of Representatives in the United States of America passed H.R. 3935, the Securing Growth and Robust Leadership in American Aviation Act, by an overwhelming bipartisan 351- 69 vote. This bill contains an important provision to raise the mandatory retirement age for commercial pilots from 65 to 67. The Senate committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation is expected to release their version of the Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization before October with the same bipartisan provision to raise the retirement age. I respectfully submit that it is in international aviation industry's best interest to raise this age for several compelling reasons.
Modern medical advances have significantly extended life expectancy and enhanced general health, particularly for individuals in their sixties. These advancements have translated into people staying physically and mentally fit for a longer period, thereby enabling them to continue effectively performing demanding tasks, including piloting aircraft. With the extensive and rigorous training that pilots undergo, it is a monumental investment for both the individual and the industry. By increasing the retirement age, we are maximizing this investment, allowing for additional years of service for the most experienced and knowledgeable pilots
Furthermore, we are presently witnessing a global pilot shortage which is affecting the United States extensively causing delays and limiting investment for new planes. Raising the retirement age would serve as ¿ viable solution, allowing for a larger, experienced pool of pilots to remain in service. This would not only help alleviate the current crisis but would also provide mentorship opportunities for newer pilots entering the industry.
Lastly, in the context of equal rights and age discrimination, extending the retirement age to 67 would harmonize the aviation industry with other sectors where professionals, such as judges and physicians, continue to serve in their respective capacities beyond the age of 65. This would send a strong message that age should not be the sole determinant in evaluating a pilot's capability to perform their duties effectively and safely. I understand that safety is paramount in the aviation industry. For this reason, the bill that passed the House of Representatives maintains the same stringent medical and competency evaluations for pilots over the age of 65, ensuring that only those in optimal condition continue to serve.
In conclusion, I respectfully request that the ICAO Council consider this proposal to increase the retirement age for pilots from 65 to 67. I believe that this change, paired with rigorous health and competency assessments, will benefit not only the aviation industry but society as a whole
Sincerely
Troy E. Nehls
Member of Congress
09-20-2023, 05:43 PM
#123
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Congress of the United States
House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
August 28, 2023
Dear Members of the ICAO Council,
I am writing to inform you that in July of this year, the House of Representatives in the United States of America passed H.R. 3935, the Securing Growth and Robust Leadership in American Aviation Act, by an overwhelming bipartisan 351- 69 vote. This bill contains an important provision to raise the mandatory retirement age for commercial pilots from 65 to 67. The Senate committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation is expected to release their version of the Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization before October with the same bipartisan provision to raise the retirement age. I respectfully submit that it is in international aviation industry's best interest to raise this age for several compelling reasons.
Modern medical advances have significantly extended life expectancy and enhanced general health, particularly for individuals in their sixties. These advancements have translated into people staying physically and mentally fit for a longer period, thereby enabling them to continue effectively performing demanding tasks, including piloting aircraft. With the extensive and rigorous training that pilots undergo, it is a monumental investment for both the individual and the industry. By increasing the retirement age, we are maximizing this investment, allowing for additional years of service for the most experienced and knowledgeable pilots
Furthermore, we are presently witnessing a global pilot shortage which is affecting the United States extensively causing delays and limiting investment for new planes. Raising the retirement age would serve as ¿ viable solution, allowing for a larger, experienced pool of pilots to remain in service. This would not only help alleviate the current crisis but would also provide mentorship opportunities for newer pilots entering the industry.
Lastly, in the context of equal rights and age discrimination, extending the retirement age to 67 would harmonize the aviation industry with other sectors where professionals, such as judges and physicians, continue to serve in their respective capacities beyond the age of 65. This would send a strong message that age should not be the sole determinant in evaluating a pilot's capability to perform their duties effectively and safely. I understand that safety is paramount in the aviation industry. For this reason, the bill that passed the House of Representatives maintains the same stringent medical and competency evaluations for pilots over the age of 65, ensuring that only those in optimal condition continue to serve.
In conclusion, I respectfully request that the ICAO Council consider this proposal to increase the retirement age for pilots from 65 to 67. I believe that this change, paired with rigorous health and competency assessments, will benefit not only the aviation industry but society as a whole
Sincerely
Troy E. Nehls
Member of Congress
House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
August 28, 2023
Dear Members of the ICAO Council,
I am writing to inform you that in July of this year, the House of Representatives in the United States of America passed H.R. 3935, the Securing Growth and Robust Leadership in American Aviation Act, by an overwhelming bipartisan 351- 69 vote. This bill contains an important provision to raise the mandatory retirement age for commercial pilots from 65 to 67. The Senate committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation is expected to release their version of the Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization before October with the same bipartisan provision to raise the retirement age. I respectfully submit that it is in international aviation industry's best interest to raise this age for several compelling reasons.
Modern medical advances have significantly extended life expectancy and enhanced general health, particularly for individuals in their sixties. These advancements have translated into people staying physically and mentally fit for a longer period, thereby enabling them to continue effectively performing demanding tasks, including piloting aircraft. With the extensive and rigorous training that pilots undergo, it is a monumental investment for both the individual and the industry. By increasing the retirement age, we are maximizing this investment, allowing for additional years of service for the most experienced and knowledgeable pilots
Furthermore, we are presently witnessing a global pilot shortage which is affecting the United States extensively causing delays and limiting investment for new planes. Raising the retirement age would serve as ¿ viable solution, allowing for a larger, experienced pool of pilots to remain in service. This would not only help alleviate the current crisis but would also provide mentorship opportunities for newer pilots entering the industry.
Lastly, in the context of equal rights and age discrimination, extending the retirement age to 67 would harmonize the aviation industry with other sectors where professionals, such as judges and physicians, continue to serve in their respective capacities beyond the age of 65. This would send a strong message that age should not be the sole determinant in evaluating a pilot's capability to perform their duties effectively and safely. I understand that safety is paramount in the aviation industry. For this reason, the bill that passed the House of Representatives maintains the same stringent medical and competency evaluations for pilots over the age of 65, ensuring that only those in optimal condition continue to serve.
In conclusion, I respectfully request that the ICAO Council consider this proposal to increase the retirement age for pilots from 65 to 67. I believe that this change, paired with rigorous health and competency assessments, will benefit not only the aviation industry but society as a whole
Sincerely
Troy E. Nehls
Member of Congress
09-20-2023, 06:10 PM
#124
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Maybe they can go the other way now, keep age 65 but allow 200 hour CPL FO's (or worse) in 121.
09-20-2023, 06:19 PM
#126
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Very likely 67 happens end of this year or early next year, you’ll see.
Bi laterals until ICAO changes. Australia - New Zealand no age limit and both fly between both countries.
ICAO has no regulatory authority only the 193 member states have all the power.
09-20-2023, 06:31 PM
#127
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Yes, that's the way it's trending, as an objective observer of the political process.
That last is true for sure.
I've said before that bilats are possible, but not automatic... if the basis for reciprocal ops is ICAO, you have to comply with ICAO rules absent a specific bilat. Even if both nations allow 65+.
Bilats may not be as quick or easy as one might think... I would absolutely not hang your hat that 65+ will be able to fly to many places outside the USofA any time soon.
I do think ICAO will fall in line, relatively quickly in diplomacy terms... but that's at least a couple years out I would guess.
I've said before that bilats are possible, but not automatic... if the basis for reciprocal ops is ICAO, you have to comply with ICAO rules absent a specific bilat. Even if both nations allow 65+.
Bilats may not be as quick or easy as one might think... I would absolutely not hang your hat that 65+ will be able to fly to many places outside the USofA any time soon.
I do think ICAO will fall in line, relatively quickly in diplomacy terms... but that's at least a couple years out I would guess.
09-20-2023, 08:33 PM
#129
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09-20-2023, 11:12 PM
#130
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Congress of the United States
House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
August 28, 2023
Dear Members of the ICAO Council,
I am writing to inform you that in July of this year, the House of Representatives in the United States of America passed H.R. 3935, the Securing Growth and Robust Leadership in American Aviation Act, by an overwhelming bipartisan 351- 69 vote. This bill contains an important provision to raise the mandatory retirement age for commercial pilots from 65 to 67. The Senate committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation is expected to release their version of the Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization before October with the same bipartisan provision to raise the retirement age. I respectfully submit that it is in international aviation industry's best interest to raise this age for several compelling reasons.
Modern medical advances have significantly extended life expectancy and enhanced general health, particularly for individuals in their sixties. These advancements have translated into people staying physically and mentally fit for a longer period, thereby enabling them to continue effectively performing demanding tasks, including piloting aircraft. With the extensive and rigorous training that pilots undergo, it is a monumental investment for both the individual and the industry. By increasing the retirement age, we are maximizing this investment, allowing for additional years of service for the most experienced and knowledgeable pilots
Furthermore, we are presently witnessing a global pilot shortage which is affecting the United States extensively causing delays and limiting investment for new planes. Raising the retirement age would serve as ¿ viable solution, allowing for a larger, experienced pool of pilots to remain in service. This would not only help alleviate the current crisis but would also provide mentorship opportunities for newer pilots entering the industry.
Lastly, in the context of equal rights and age discrimination, extending the retirement age to 67 would harmonize the aviation industry with other sectors where professionals, such as judges and physicians, continue to serve in their respective capacities beyond the age of 65. This would send a strong message that age should not be the sole determinant in evaluating a pilot's capability to perform their duties effectively and safely. I understand that safety is paramount in the aviation industry. For this reason, the bill that passed the House of Representatives maintains the same stringent medical and competency evaluations for pilots over the age of 65, ensuring that only those in optimal condition continue to serve.
In conclusion, I respectfully request that the ICAO Council consider this proposal to increase the retirement age for pilots from 65 to 67. I believe that this change, paired with rigorous health and competency assessments, will benefit not only the aviation industry but society as a whole
Sincerely
Troy E. Nehls
Member of Congress
House of Representatives
Washington, DC 20515
August 28, 2023
Dear Members of the ICAO Council,
I am writing to inform you that in July of this year, the House of Representatives in the United States of America passed H.R. 3935, the Securing Growth and Robust Leadership in American Aviation Act, by an overwhelming bipartisan 351- 69 vote. This bill contains an important provision to raise the mandatory retirement age for commercial pilots from 65 to 67. The Senate committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation is expected to release their version of the Federal Aviation Administration reauthorization before October with the same bipartisan provision to raise the retirement age. I respectfully submit that it is in international aviation industry's best interest to raise this age for several compelling reasons.
Modern medical advances have significantly extended life expectancy and enhanced general health, particularly for individuals in their sixties. These advancements have translated into people staying physically and mentally fit for a longer period, thereby enabling them to continue effectively performing demanding tasks, including piloting aircraft. With the extensive and rigorous training that pilots undergo, it is a monumental investment for both the individual and the industry. By increasing the retirement age, we are maximizing this investment, allowing for additional years of service for the most experienced and knowledgeable pilots
Furthermore, we are presently witnessing a global pilot shortage which is affecting the United States extensively causing delays and limiting investment for new planes. Raising the retirement age would serve as ¿ viable solution, allowing for a larger, experienced pool of pilots to remain in service. This would not only help alleviate the current crisis but would also provide mentorship opportunities for newer pilots entering the industry.
Lastly, in the context of equal rights and age discrimination, extending the retirement age to 67 would harmonize the aviation industry with other sectors where professionals, such as judges and physicians, continue to serve in their respective capacities beyond the age of 65. This would send a strong message that age should not be the sole determinant in evaluating a pilot's capability to perform their duties effectively and safely. I understand that safety is paramount in the aviation industry. For this reason, the bill that passed the House of Representatives maintains the same stringent medical and competency evaluations for pilots over the age of 65, ensuring that only those in optimal condition continue to serve.
In conclusion, I respectfully request that the ICAO Council consider this proposal to increase the retirement age for pilots from 65 to 67. I believe that this change, paired with rigorous health and competency assessments, will benefit not only the aviation industry but society as a whole
Sincerely
Troy E. Nehls
Member of Congress
They think there’s a pilot shortage now?
LOLZ
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