Pros / Cons
09-09-2023, 04:20 AM
#21
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How many more planes can they put in EWR, LAX, and SFO?
09-09-2023, 08:02 AM
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09-10-2023, 07:01 AM
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Close. The FAA "ride" is not pass/fail. It's an observation. The new Captain is either in command of the aircraft or they're not. If they're not, there's some more IOE with an emphasis on that area, then another observation ride. Also, APD's or evaluators have nothing to do with the process. It's either a actual fed, or a QC in the jumpseat.
You can't fail it, because it's not a jeopardy event.
You can't fail it, because it's not a jeopardy event.
Another point: the observation is conducted during the trainees IOE (after a couple rides and 10 hours of time) It’s still a training ride. The observation is to determine if the trainee has internalized the Captain skills which she or he has received during sim training and IOE. If they have the QC signs a form stating the observation was completed - that’s it - no grading, etc. If not another observation is scheduled or it may be time to consider sending the trainee back to TK for some one on one work. I’ve been in both sides as the trainees LCP and as a QC. There is always a meeting of the minds after the observation.
09-10-2023, 08:20 AM
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It’s a concession. Right now, everyone can decide when to bid CA. Why would we let the company assign it to someone that doesn’t choose it?
Are people so scared that others will vote no, that you have to pretend this isn’t a concession? Those saying it takes a number of steps first, or that it won’t be implemented til later, or volunteers will reduce the number of forced upgrades, are ignoring the fact that it’s a concession.
Are people so scared that others will vote no, that you have to pretend this isn’t a concession? Those saying it takes a number of steps first, or that it won’t be implemented til later, or volunteers will reduce the number of forced upgrades, are ignoring the fact that it’s a concession.
09-10-2023, 08:57 AM
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finding a parking spot for a plane and pilot bases are two entirely different things.
do you really think that IAH, ORD, CLE and probably even DEN are “optimum” size?
I would not be surprised if those bases see years of stagnation / shrinking in the future.
09-10-2023, 09:02 AM
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it’s expensive to close a base. I assume LAS and MCO will stay open.
finding a parking spot for a plane and pilot bases are two entirely different things.
do you really think that IAH, ORD, CLE and probably even DEN are “optimum” size?
I would not be surprised if those bases see years of stagnation / shrinking in the future.
finding a parking spot for a plane and pilot bases are two entirely different things.
do you really think that IAH, ORD, CLE and probably even DEN are “optimum” size?
I would not be surprised if those bases see years of stagnation / shrinking in the future.
They want to do 700 flights/day out of DEN - sounds like stagnation to me too 😂
09-10-2023, 09:06 AM
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cool...700 times a day: united 123 uhhh, let me think here, uhhh, yeah your gate is occupied, uhhh, what should we do with you? uhhh, why dont you hold on the green line behind gate 47 uhhh, yeah thats a great idea.
09-10-2023, 09:41 AM
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Bingo. I don’t know why people believe that because there’s not enough room for the planes to stay overnight in the hubs they necessarily need to have outstation pilot bases. There’s this thing called hotels. MCO & LAS were about appealing to pilots, not parking airplanes.
09-10-2023, 09:56 AM
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Largest airport in the world and every day it's like they've never seen an airplane before. Completely baffling.
09-10-2023, 10:06 AM
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