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09-03-2023, 11:03 AM
#21
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Joined APC: Nov 2022
Posts: 148
Hard no.
Forced upgrade for many reasons is not okay.
My 2 hills were rolled into days off-even if in a base (which is crazy since RSV is at 50%). The other was locking in an approved calculus for a gline.
It’ll pass because $$$.
Forced upgrade for many reasons is not okay.
My 2 hills were rolled into days off-even if in a base (which is crazy since RSV is at 50%). The other was locking in an approved calculus for a gline.
It’ll pass because $$$.
09-03-2023, 11:18 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Jul 2018
Posts: 469
Nobody said it was, but if a Delta (or any other major) baby captain puts one in the dirt, it will be a huge setback for all of us. I don’t see any of you hippocrates out there making a stink with those other airlines’ “risk taking” (including ALPA carriers). The reason you aren’t into it is because you perceive it as somehow reducing some of our theoretical leverage 4 years down the road when our next contract is due… mmm k, just say that then.
09-03-2023, 11:48 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Jul 2007
Position: 756 left
Posts: 766
Nobody said it was, but if a Delta (or any other major) baby captain puts one in the dirt, it will be a huge setback for all of us. I don’t see any of you hippocrates out there making a stink with those other airlines’ “risk taking” (including ALPA carriers). The reason you aren’t into it is because you perceive it as somehow reducing some of our theoretical leverage 4 years down the road when our next contract is due… mmm k, just say that then.
And I agree the poster that you replied to in that allowing the company to include these spots in a new hire drop at United does diminish the company's need to make the position attractive enough, contractually, to improve the terms in the future.
We negotiate with the next vote in mind, only and almost always. The company negotiates two and three contracts down the road. Concerning 8-F-12, we were certainly outmaneuvered.
09-03-2023, 01:34 PM
#25
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Joined APC: Dec 2006
Posts: 319
We have worked our way into the worst sick leave program in the country. Anyone having a good month that gets sick will have to make a decision; let's see, call in sick and lose $10K off my monthly paycheck or show up sick as a dog. Hmmmm, wonder what people will do. What an absolute joke to put in a pay cap if you have a sick call in that month. The rest of what we have in front of us that everyone is so excited about is industry standard at best. We will be stuck with this crap for the next 10 years. I love the attitude of the no-voters just want to tell people they voted no. Ummmm, no, actually we know what it means to have leverage and understand what our worth is.
09-03-2023, 04:14 PM
#26
Line Holder
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 58
Sick leave is dealbreaker for me, I'm so tired of bringing all kinds of my flying partners "allergies" back home to my family and unfortunately all changes only reinforcing fly sick company policy which includes minimal sick time accrual, company radar with number of sick calls and now the 95h add-on.
09-03-2023, 05:20 PM
#28
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Joined APC: Aug 2013
Posts: 160
09-03-2023, 06:07 PM
#29
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Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 1,337
09-03-2023, 06:49 PM
#30
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: 767/757 CA
Posts: 2,695
Sick leave is dealbreaker for me, I'm so tired of bringing all kinds of my flying partners "allergies" back home to my family and unfortunately all changes only reinforcing fly sick company policy which includes minimal sick time accrual, company radar with number of sick calls and now the 95h add-on.
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