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09-03-2023, 09:14 AM
#13
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Joined APC: Jan 2022
Posts: 189
Still reading the TA but my stance was zero concessions. I also had a couple of important to me improvements that are not there so I'm not happy. I would think if we sent it back, a few changes would be made quickly (happened in the past) and sent back out. For that reason I have no fear of voting no if I should decide that.
Carter1, Might be some truth to it, but certainly not all No voters are complainers or hiding. Last year it was been the Yes voters who hid. There are a number of reasons to vote either way and we should respect each other for it.
Carter1, Might be some truth to it, but certainly not all No voters are complainers or hiding. Last year it was been the Yes voters who hid. There are a number of reasons to vote either way and we should respect each other for it.
Last edited by buzzer; 09-03-2023 at 09:30 AM.
09-03-2023, 09:28 AM
#15
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Posts: 50
I agree. I wish there was more respect amongst everyone in all regards when it comes to all of this.
you’ve got my respect even though we differ in opinion. People are allowed to disagree, I wish people remembered that
you’ve got my respect even though we differ in opinion. People are allowed to disagree, I wish people remembered that
Still reading the TA but my stance was zero concessions. I also had a couple of important to me improvements that are not there so I'm not happy. I would think if we sent it back, a few changes would be made quickly (happened in the past) and sent back out. For that reason I have no fear of voting no if I should decide that.
Carter1, Might be some truth to it, but certainly not all No voters are complainers or hiding. Last year it was been the Yes voters who hide. There are a number of reasons to vote either way and we should respect each other for it.
Carter1, Might be some truth to it, but certainly not all No voters are complainers or hiding. Last year it was been the Yes voters who hide. There are a number of reasons to vote either way and we should respect each other for it.
09-03-2023, 09:36 AM
#17
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Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 1,337
I respect a difference in opinion. When I begin to disrespect that is when certain loudmouths feel the need to rally others to their way of thinking,
09-03-2023, 09:54 AM
#18
Gets Weekends Off
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Joined APC: Jan 2015
Position: EWR 777 FO
Posts: 187
The T/A, from everything i've read so far, is 85% good, 10% not so good, and 5% terrible. For me and my family, sick time is a downright pathetic excuse of an improvement. ESB is absolutely useless with all the barriers in place. Not happy that we are the only ones still playing the 50 and 75 percent premium game. 767 still pays as a NB, and 350 hour forced captains should, at the minimum, concern us all. I respect and can absolutely see why someone would vote yes. I unfortunately am having a hard time looking past the terrible. Whichever way you slice it I can't see how this total package matches Delta. We exceed them slightly in some areas, but fall way short in too many others.
09-03-2023, 10:02 AM
#19
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Joined APC: Dec 2022
Posts: 293
The vast majority of the no voters are only voting that way because they know it will pass with flying colors. They want to be able to smugly tell people they voted no, for whatever nonsense reason they have. If it was down to the wire and they knew their vote would make a difference, they would vote yes. It’s like voting for a 3rd party candidate when you live in Texas or California. They will spend the next 5 years telling everyone they meet that they voted no.
That said, the NO vote for me also represents the "eye of the tiger" that we don't practice enough. All talk. not enough action.
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