How long to achieve widebody FO?

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08-29-2023, 10:14 AM

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For a pilot that's newly hired today or in the next few years, what kind of timeline can one reasonably expect on the path to first officer on a widebody? Assuming one hustles and doesn't care about money or location (FL/Texas would be nice but not necessary). Would you need to upgrade from narrowbody first officer to narrowbody captain before moving to widebody first officer?

Thanks!

5-90 days for award? 6-9 months until activation IF you don’t get it day #1. It’s doubtful the new AIP/TA will change that, The reserve improvements aren’t that good.

08-29-2023, 11:15 AM

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I was awarded it as a new hire. Recently there has been a huge amount of overstaffing that has occurred on the WBs and the company is letting it naturally slim down. Unless you live in base, I would avoid it. If you live in a WB base that you can hold, should be a matter of vacancy bids.

08-29-2023, 11:42 AM

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“How long to achieve widebody FO?”

If you eat all the Eli’s cheesecakes offered it’s about 2 months give or take

08-29-2023, 12:29 PM

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DON’T bid it as a new hire. Unless you live in base, you’ll be commuting to reserve for years. Bid NB as a new hire, and then you can bid right up to WBFO whenever you choose…as long as we are still running vacancy bids. And that has been a constant for a couple years now.

Not true. As of NOW, bunky lines around 1 year depending on base.

08-29-2023, 03:02 PM

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Not true. As of NOW, bunky lines around 1 year depending on base.

Where is this 1 year gline you speak of??

08-29-2023, 03:27 PM

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Where is this 1 year gline you speak of??

SFO 777 looks that way.

08-29-2023, 04:13 PM

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SFO 777 looks that way.

Yup. Only for a few more months though. Lots of more senior people came in on the last few vacancies. It’ll probably be around 1.5 years. SFO 787 G line will be around 2 years in a few months.

08-29-2023, 04:46 PM

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whats a gline

08-29-2023, 05:46 PM

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whats a gline

It’s established monthly and published as the last employee number that is guaranteed a line for a given fleet/base. Basically the delineator between lineholders and reserves.

08-29-2023, 05:47 PM

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Yup. Only for a few more months though. Lots of more senior people came in on the last few vacancies. It’ll probably be around 1.5 years. SFO 787 G line will be around 2 years in a few months.

May even revert to more historical norms, although probably not in SFO.