Delta’s WidgetSeniority Comparison?
08-20-2023, 09:19 AM
#11
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Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: EWR 777 Captain
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That's easy, and nothing to do with the job per se
Two simple reasons. 1) When I was starting out all I wanted in life was to see the world and fly big planes. Having now seen a ballet at the Bolshoi, walked the stairs in Hong Kong, tasted steak in Argentina, and seen a Green Flash at sunset in Hawaii, I'm done seeing the world and would rather spend time walking my dogs in the woods, and 2) I've been incredibly fortunate in love and finance having kept the same wife for 30 years, and so I fully expect to be able to earn more off my retirement 401k and my wife's 401k then I could by continuing to work past age 60. Plus it's my wife's turn to pick some travel destinations that we can get to in a paid First Class seat and hang out for a few weeks.
That's what you get if you plan ahead, enjoy what you have today, and live within your means
Just to keep some semblance of staying on track. My point to the OP was merely to reinforce the point made earlier. Any estimator out there today is essentially worthless when looking beyond a year or two so go with what you prefer and enjoy the ride whatever that "ride" may be!
08-20-2023, 12:21 PM
#12
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Joined APC: May 2022
Posts: 225
I should be holding SYD (or the equivalent) at 64.
so, I can leave the house at 8 pm day 1 and be home by noon on day 4 twice a month and do a Hawaii or Boston 2-day to fill out my month, making 400k+. That is better than retirement for 99% of the world. The only thing missing is enjoying some kind at my local music venue.
there’s a reason why most people don’t punch out early.
so, I can leave the house at 8 pm day 1 and be home by noon on day 4 twice a month and do a Hawaii or Boston 2-day to fill out my month, making 400k+. That is better than retirement for 99% of the world. The only thing missing is enjoying some kind at my local music venue.
there’s a reason why most people don’t punch out early.
08-20-2023, 02:26 PM
#13
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Posts: 342
That's easy, and nothing to do with the job per se
Two simple reasons. 1) When I was starting out all I wanted in life was to see the world and fly big planes. Having now seen a ballet at the Bolshoi, walked the stairs in Hong Kong, tasted steak in Argentina, and seen a Green Flash at sunset in Hawaii, I'm done seeing the world and would rather spend time walking my dogs in the woods, and 2) I've been incredibly fortunate in love and finance having kept the same wife for 30 years, and so I fully expect to be able to earn more off my retirement 401k and my wife's 401k then I could by continuing to work past age 60. Plus it's my wife's turn to pick some travel destinations that we can get to in a paid First Class seat and hang out for a few weeks.
That's what you get if you plan ahead, enjoy what you have today, and live within your means
Just to keep some semblance of staying on track. My point to the OP was merely to reinforce the point made earlier. Any estimator out there today is essentially worthless when looking beyond a year or two so go with what you prefer and enjoy the ride whatever that "ride" may be!
Two simple reasons. 1) When I was starting out all I wanted in life was to see the world and fly big planes. Having now seen a ballet at the Bolshoi, walked the stairs in Hong Kong, tasted steak in Argentina, and seen a Green Flash at sunset in Hawaii, I'm done seeing the world and would rather spend time walking my dogs in the woods, and 2) I've been incredibly fortunate in love and finance having kept the same wife for 30 years, and so I fully expect to be able to earn more off my retirement 401k and my wife's 401k then I could by continuing to work past age 60. Plus it's my wife's turn to pick some travel destinations that we can get to in a paid First Class seat and hang out for a few weeks.
That's what you get if you plan ahead, enjoy what you have today, and live within your means
Just to keep some semblance of staying on track. My point to the OP was merely to reinforce the point made earlier. Any estimator out there today is essentially worthless when looking beyond a year or two so go with what you prefer and enjoy the ride whatever that "ride" may be!
08-20-2023, 02:35 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Feb 2015
Posts: 1,135
We can go on CCS and look at our seniority progression month by month but that’s about it. Nothing available for those who don’t work here that I’m aware of.
Also, that’s a pretty arbitrary number past about a year. Things could get better, get worse, they could stop hiring all together and decide to shrink or retire a whole fleet of aircraft. If you’re making your decision based on where you’re gonna be in 20 years that’s the wrong way to look at it. For all we know Delta and United maybe one company in 20 years time.
You need to look at QOL. Where will you be based? Do you want to live in any of their bases if you don’t commute? Do you want to fly widebodies vs narrow bodies? Those are the questions among others that you need to ask yourself.
Also, that’s a pretty arbitrary number past about a year. Things could get better, get worse, they could stop hiring all together and decide to shrink or retire a whole fleet of aircraft. If you’re making your decision based on where you’re gonna be in 20 years that’s the wrong way to look at it. For all we know Delta and United maybe one company in 20 years time.
You need to look at QOL. Where will you be based? Do you want to live in any of their bases if you don’t commute? Do you want to fly widebodies vs narrow bodies? Those are the questions among others that you need to ask yourself.
08-20-2023, 02:37 PM
#15
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Joined APC: May 2015
Position: 777 CA
Posts: 1,039
Not everyone lives to fly until they die. I fly to earn a paycheck and provide. I want to reach my retirement number as fast as possible so I can enjoy my life outside of work while i still have the health to do it. I don’t identify as an airline Captain. It’s a job that pays the bills. I realize that there are people who can’t understand that rationale but for them there are things like Netjets and part 91/135 after retirement.
08-20-2023, 05:35 PM
#18
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Joined APC: Jan 2019
Posts: 90
I should be holding SYD (or the equivalent) at 64.
so, I can leave the house at 8 pm day 1 and be home by noon on day 4 twice a month and do a Hawaii or Boston 2-day to fill out my month, making 400k+. That is better than retirement for 99% of the world. The only thing missing is enjoying some kind at my local music venue.
there’s a reason why most people don’t punch out early.
so, I can leave the house at 8 pm day 1 and be home by noon on day 4 twice a month and do a Hawaii or Boston 2-day to fill out my month, making 400k+. That is better than retirement for 99% of the world. The only thing missing is enjoying some kind at my local music venue.
there’s a reason why most people don’t punch out early.
08-20-2023, 05:43 PM
#19
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Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,321
At 53 most people have a couple of kids in college and have enjoyed at least one major career setback, but technically that’s two reasons. We may not need $400k annually, but you do need enough to live comfortably until you and your spouse are dead. To punch out at 53, one would need a pretty impressive retirement account balance.
08-20-2023, 05:49 PM
#20
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Joined APC: Dec 2018
Posts: 1,085
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