View Poll Results: Will you upgrade with a ratified contract?

Yes

21.00%

168

52.66%

Undecided

26.33%

Voters: 319. You may not vote on this poll

Captain Upgrade with New TA: Yes or No

Reply Subscribe

Page 16 of 17

« First

Thread Tools

Search this Thread

09-29-2023, 05:58 PM

#151

744ButtonPusher

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Apr 2018

Posts: 196

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otterbox

UAL can offer 36 CA vacancy slots to next weeks class of 50 new hires if they want now that the contract has been ratified.

so full of mis-information :

all freezes for people to bid for any narrow body CA vacancies must be lifted: this was not done for any of the closed vacancies so those unfilleds cannot be offered

09-29-2023, 07:19 PM

#152

OtterPilot

On Reserve

Joined APC: Apr 2013

Posts: 23

Additionally all new reserve improvements must be in place before any accelerated captains are allowed. The timeline for reserve improvements is August 2024.

09-29-2023, 07:34 PM

#153

CRJCapitan

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: May 2023

Posts: 502

Quote:

Originally Posted by OtterPilot

Additionally all new reserve improvements must be in place before any accelerated captains are allowed. The timeline for reserve improvements is August 2024.

That is encouraging and would take the entirety of that timeline to implement that stuff, in theory. However, a captain shortage is the biggest problem UA management faces. The cost of implementing these QOL improvements is peanuts compared to the revenue they stand to gain by making sure there are enough NB CA's to carry out United Next (one way or another), and apparently it's cheaper to implement all of this stuff than to incentivize upgrade enough to move the needle. The company wouldn't have negotiated for this if they didn't think there was a realistic chance of this scenario becoming a reality.

09-30-2023, 06:40 AM

#154

guppie

Banned

Joined APC: Feb 2018

Position: B-737 Captain

Posts: 657

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTwift

Just to make sure it's clear, if the reserve level is 20%, 15% of that amount will be the long call lines. It's a percentage of a percentage.

I think I get it.... For example: 400 pilots in base x 20% reserve coverage = 80 reserve lines x 15% = 12 LCL lines minimum.

Is this correcto?

09-30-2023, 09:26 AM

#155

JTwift

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Feb 2017

Posts: 1,360

Quote:

Originally Posted by guppie

I think I get it.... For example: 400 pilots in base x 20% reserve coverage = 80 reserve lines x 15% = 12 LCL lines minimum.

Is this correcto?

yes. That’s correct.

09-30-2023, 09:40 AM

#156

ugleeual

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Jun 2007

Position: 767/757 CA

Posts: 2,701

Quote:

Originally Posted by guppie

I think I get it.... For example: 400 pilots in base x 20% reserve coverage = 80 reserve lines x 15% = 12 LCL lines minimum.

Is this correcto?

yep. I’m trying to figure out which reserve option is better… I live in base and wonder if LCL, traditional reserve, or VEC is best if I don’t want to fly.

09-30-2023, 10:36 AM

#157

Brickfire

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Sep 2022

Posts: 856

Quote:

Originally Posted by ugleeual

yep. I’m trying to figure out which reserve option is better… I live in base and wonder if LCL, traditional reserve, or VEC is best if I don’t want to fly.

I bet the 3% lcl goes in top 10% so you may not need to worry

09-30-2023, 11:24 AM

#158

TimetoClimb

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Jan 2016

Posts: 535

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRJCapitan

does the implementation not serve to both improve reserve AND incentivize CA upgrades. I’d say it does as junior captains will be subject to them. They threw money at the issue as well

09-30-2023, 12:20 PM

#159

JTwift

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Feb 2017

Posts: 1,360

Quote:

Originally Posted by ugleeual

yep. I’m trying to figure out which reserve option is better… I live in base and wonder if LCL, traditional reserve, or VEC is best if I don’t want to fly.

you’ll want to look at the assignment ladder and then decide. LCL is first up for a trip.

there are 25 steps to the assignment ladder that scheduling has to follow.

09-30-2023, 01:47 PM

#160

ThumbsUp

Gets Weekends Off

Joined APC: Mar 2018

Posts: 2,501

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTwift

you’ll want to look at the assignment ladder and then decide. LCL is first up for a trip.

there are 25 steps to the assignment ladder that scheduling has to follow.

Yeah… to me it looks like volunteering for LCL is an easy way to get the fullest schedule as a reserve. I’d go traditional.