ORD 21
08-17-2023, 06:34 AM
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Anyone have any 'latest & greatest' on what's going on at Chicago-O'Hare? Particularly with any projections for United's footprint?
Late last fall, FAA gave the final go-ahead to ORD's $7.1 billion expansion + revamp. TBH, I didn't know they were even waiting for final approval since they had already added 9C/27C and tore up tons of the field already. The ORD 21 project's website has some good general info that gets the occasional update. However, what's been lacking is solid info as to what growth United may see due to the project.
With the two new additional satellite concourses, how many total gates are being added? Of the additional gates, how many are going to United versus other carriers? How does the new 'global terminal' (currently Terminal 2) integrate with United's existing Terminal 1 footprint?
I'm curious how this ultimately increases staffing requirements for ORD. How many more 737/320 pilots will be needed for ORD? 756? With the 777 gone and the 787 contracting slightly out of Chicago, is widebody flying out of ORD going to stagnate or continue to shrink? I've been told there's been some of this info discussed at ORD townhalls, maybe some of you would be willing to share any projections discussed.
Late last fall, FAA gave the final go-ahead to ORD's $7.1 billion expansion + revamp. TBH, I didn't know they were even waiting for final approval since they had already added 9C/27C and tore up tons of the field already. The ORD 21 project's website has some good general info that gets the occasional update. However, what's been lacking is solid info as to what growth United may see due to the project.
With the two new additional satellite concourses, how many total gates are being added? Of the additional gates, how many are going to United versus other carriers? How does the new 'global terminal' (currently Terminal 2) integrate with United's existing Terminal 1 footprint?
I'm curious how this ultimately increases staffing requirements for ORD. How many more 737/320 pilots will be needed for ORD? 756? With the 777 gone and the 787 contracting slightly out of Chicago, is widebody flying out of ORD going to stagnate or continue to shrink? I've been told there's been some of this info discussed at ORD townhalls, maybe some of you would be willing to share any projections discussed.
08-17-2023, 08:01 AM
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Anyone have any 'latest & greatest' on what's going on at Chicago-O'Hare? Particularly with any projections for United's footprint?
Late last fall, FAA gave the final go-ahead to ORD's $7.1 billion expansion + revamp. TBH, I didn't know they were even waiting for final approval since they had already added 9C/27C and tore up tons of the field already. The ORD 21 project's website has some good general info that gets the occasional update. However, what's been lacking is solid info as to what growth United may see due to the project.
With the two new additional satellite concourses, how many total gates are being added? Of the additional gates, how many are going to United versus other carriers? How does the new 'global terminal' (currently Terminal 2) integrate with United's existing Terminal 1 footprint?
I'm curious how this ultimately increases staffing requirements for ORD. How many more 737/320 pilots will be needed for ORD? 756? With the 777 gone and the 787 contracting slightly out of Chicago, is widebody flying out of ORD going to stagnate or continue to shrink? I've been told there's been some of this info discussed at ORD townhalls, maybe some of you would be willing to share any projections discussed.
Late last fall, FAA gave the final go-ahead to ORD's $7.1 billion expansion + revamp. TBH, I didn't know they were even waiting for final approval since they had already added 9C/27C and tore up tons of the field already. The ORD 21 project's website has some good general info that gets the occasional update. However, what's been lacking is solid info as to what growth United may see due to the project.
With the two new additional satellite concourses, how many total gates are being added? Of the additional gates, how many are going to United versus other carriers? How does the new 'global terminal' (currently Terminal 2) integrate with United's existing Terminal 1 footprint?
I'm curious how this ultimately increases staffing requirements for ORD. How many more 737/320 pilots will be needed for ORD? 756? With the 777 gone and the 787 contracting slightly out of Chicago, is widebody flying out of ORD going to stagnate or continue to shrink? I've been told there's been some of this info discussed at ORD townhalls, maybe some of you would be willing to share any projections discussed.
08-18-2023, 01:57 PM
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Anyone have any 'latest & greatest' on what's going on at Chicago-O'Hare? Particularly with any projections for United's footprint?
Late last fall, FAA gave the final go-ahead to ORD's $7.1 billion expansion + revamp. TBH, I didn't know they were even waiting for final approval since they had already added 9C/27C and tore up tons of the field already. The ORD 21 project's website has some good general info that gets the occasional update. However, what's been lacking is solid info as to what growth United may see due to the project.
With the two new additional satellite concourses, how many total gates are being added? Of the additional gates, how many are going to United versus other carriers? How does the new 'global terminal' (currently Terminal 2) integrate with United's existing Terminal 1 footprint?
I'm curious how this ultimately increases staffing requirements for ORD. How many more 737/320 pilots will be needed for ORD? 756? With the 777 gone and the 787 contracting slightly out of Chicago, is widebody flying out of ORD going to stagnate or continue to shrink? I've been told there's been some of this info discussed at ORD townhalls, maybe some of you would be willing to share any projections discussed.
Late last fall, FAA gave the final go-ahead to ORD's $7.1 billion expansion + revamp. TBH, I didn't know they were even waiting for final approval since they had already added 9C/27C and tore up tons of the field already. The ORD 21 project's website has some good general info that gets the occasional update. However, what's been lacking is solid info as to what growth United may see due to the project.
With the two new additional satellite concourses, how many total gates are being added? Of the additional gates, how many are going to United versus other carriers? How does the new 'global terminal' (currently Terminal 2) integrate with United's existing Terminal 1 footprint?
I'm curious how this ultimately increases staffing requirements for ORD. How many more 737/320 pilots will be needed for ORD? 756? With the 777 gone and the 787 contracting slightly out of Chicago, is widebody flying out of ORD going to stagnate or continue to shrink? I've been told there's been some of this info discussed at ORD townhalls, maybe some of you would be willing to share any projections discussed.
As mentioned, the new international terminal is for AA and UAL, plus their close partners. The two new concourses (extension off of C, and “D”) are for UAL. But with the removal of the E and F gates, the net gain is minimal over the current situation I believe.
you can see how the global is an extension of the B gates in the image.
What will change is the number of gates that could handle a widebody when not at the international. And since flights can depart from the new international, that opens up more domestic gates too.
As far as pilot positions goes. Too far away to make an accurate guess beyond the 756 will be less because there will be fewer 756’s on the property by the time the new terminals open.
08-31-2023, 09:40 AM
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https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/fi...pendix_B_3.pdf
Page 24 has plans for gate allocations with ORD 21 between UA, Star, AA and Oneworld carriers…
Page 24 has plans for gate allocations with ORD 21 between UA, Star, AA and Oneworld carriers…
08-31-2023, 04:32 PM
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Anyone have any 'latest & greatest' on what's going on at Chicago-O'Hare? Particularly with any projections for United's footprint?
Late last fall, FAA gave the final go-ahead to ORD's $7.1 billion expansion + revamp. TBH, I didn't know they were even waiting for final approval since they had already added 9C/27C and tore up tons of the field already. The ORD 21 project's website has some good general info that gets the occasional update. However, what's been lacking is solid info as to what growth United may see due to the project.
With the two new additional satellite concourses, how many total gates are being added? Of the additional gates, how many are going to United versus other carriers? How does the new 'global terminal' (currently Terminal 2) integrate with United's existing Terminal 1 footprint?
I'm curious how this ultimately increases staffing requirements for ORD. How many more 737/320 pilots will be needed for ORD? 756? With the 777 gone and the 787 contracting slightly out of Chicago, is widebody flying out of ORD going to stagnate or continue to shrink? I've been told there's been some of this info discussed at ORD townhalls, maybe some of you would be willing to share any projections discussed.
Late last fall, FAA gave the final go-ahead to ORD's $7.1 billion expansion + revamp. TBH, I didn't know they were even waiting for final approval since they had already added 9C/27C and tore up tons of the field already. The ORD 21 project's website has some good general info that gets the occasional update. However, what's been lacking is solid info as to what growth United may see due to the project.
With the two new additional satellite concourses, how many total gates are being added? Of the additional gates, how many are going to United versus other carriers? How does the new 'global terminal' (currently Terminal 2) integrate with United's existing Terminal 1 footprint?
I'm curious how this ultimately increases staffing requirements for ORD. How many more 737/320 pilots will be needed for ORD? 756? With the 777 gone and the 787 contracting slightly out of Chicago, is widebody flying out of ORD going to stagnate or continue to shrink? I've been told there's been some of this info discussed at ORD townhalls, maybe some of you would be willing to share any projections discussed.
09-01-2023, 09:40 AM
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No more 777’s planned as of now. Yes the 787 is the replacement.. and eventually also the A350 (until that is deferred yet again)
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